Ffl03 Question

[Bodlfed66]

Hard to find a correct answer. If I acquire my 03 license. Do I then have to send in registration on all my c&r acquired prior to license w/o a dros? I know this wasn't always the case but I am told now it is.

[ccandgc]

No. Pre license stuff does not count. Only log it in your bound book as disposed of if you sell. You already own it, so it's not needed.

[Bodlfed66]

Chad. That's what I was told but conflicting information makes me wonder. Don't want to break any laws.

[ccandgc]

I just renewed my 03 for the 3rd time, and have yet to hear this.

[Bodlfed66]

Was told it was a new law starting jan 1 2015

[Flyin Brian]

As Chad correctly answered, you don't need to report/register the firearms you already own. Once you have a C&R and you acquire something out of state (long gun or handgun) using your license, you have 5 days from the date you brought it into Ca to send in a BOF4100A.

If you get a COE and use the C&R/COE combo to acquire long guns here in CA from a private party without a dealer involved, then you send in a BOF961 within 30 days of your purchase.

Nowhere on either form is anything about firearms already owned, etc.

[ccandgc]

I'm wondering if its gun store FUD.

[Flyin Brian]

Was told it was a new law starting jan 1 2015

Ask them to provide the code, or the wording of the law they are referring to. I am willing to bet they will start backpedaling and then give you excuses. Happens all day long... you'll get used to it.

[Cokebottle]

If you get a COE and use the C&R/COE combo to acquire long guns here in CA from a private party without a dealer involved, then you send in a BOF961 within 30 days of your purchase.

Was chatting with my boss about this today.

So cash-and-carry for 50yr+ has been eliminated for non-03/COE as of 2014, correct?
My 03/COE is good to make a (long gun) purchase from a private party, but not to sell to a private party who does not have an 03/COE?

[ccandgc]

I believe this to be correct, as long as the long guns are considered C&R status.

[Flyin Brian]

Was chatting with my boss about this today.

So cash-and-carry for 50yr+ has been eliminated for non-03/COE as of 2014, correct?

Yes, but the 50 year thing was eliminated as well, so we (w/C&R/COE) can purchase long guns that are less than 50 years old as long as they are listed by ATF as C&R. An example I have heard mentioned is some types of SKS, among others, but I am not familiar enough with them to know or care which one

My 03/COE is good to make a (long gun) purchase from a private party,

Yes, then you have 30 days to send in a form to DOJ to register it here in CA.

but not to sell to a private party who does not have an 03/COE?

Your C&R was never any benefit on the selling side, still isn't.

[Cokebottle]

Cool.
That was my understanding, but didn't look up the details on non-licensees.

I didn't think it was any help for selling.
Wanted to be sure.

[Bodlfed66]

Ok. Here's what happened. I acquired my 03 late last year. I idiotically goofed up my app. When I received everything it turned into a fiasco. Took a bunch of phone calls and numerous trips from the post man to get all the paperwork right and receive everything I needed. I could be missing some? Hopefully no new law paperwork? Since I have received it I have yet to use it for buying a firearm. Bought a lot of reloading supplies though.....
Bought a couple of guns 3-4 years back from a fellow calgunner I friended here. In chatting today he said he let his 03 go because he did not want to register all his guns with ca and the Atf per the new laws. I started quizzing him on these new laws which is where this conversation started. I was also told that I need to register any gun be it rifle, shotgun or pistol with ca and the atf per the new law so if atf comes to my house I am in the clear. No matter when they were acquired.
Am I that much out of the loop? 3 of my c&r rifles that I bought were not dros'd but bought legally 3-4 years ago and one 410 shotgun that's 50 years old I got from my father eons ago. Do these now legally need to be registered ? If I am not compliant in some way I need to take care of this. This guy is pretty good about keeping up on things so I am kinda nervous. If not something to atf some kinda registration to ca? Any advice is appreciated.
Ps. Sorry for any mis types. On my phone.

[Flyin Brian]

The guy is just confused. Many people ARE letting their 03 lapse (and not buying anymore guns) because they don't want to register new purchases, but it truly has no bearing on stuff you already owned prior to 2014.

[Bodlfed66]

So I don't need to register previous guns with ca?