Enfield Help

[Spartan301]

No.1 MkIII

I think you're referring to the early No.4s. They had the Crown and Enfield marks on the left side of the wrist while the No.1s had it on the right side of the wrist.

As for the OP's No.4, I think it's an early BSA Shirley. They made a batch with a serial sequence in a letter-numbers format.

You are correct. Just got home and started looking at the Enfields. Here's a pic of the R/S makers mark on my SMLE 1918 in .303 Enfield.

Looks like a good score OP! Don't forget to get a bayonet!

I'll have to do some research on my No.4 Mk1, no crown on either side.

[81turbota]

The crown went away with the No.1.

My bet is yours is a Maltby, would need to see focused pictures of the reciever area like the Fazakerly picture below. It is quite common for refurbishment finish to cover the very light markings. Edit- not a Fazakerly because they EP'd the serial number by the model designation, not stamped into the socket.

No.4 and beyond looked like this:
I haven't included every possible variation, but you get the idea.

ROF Fazakerly (this particular one has been FTR)


BSA- coded M47C


ROF Maltby


US Savage


Canadian Long Branch

[Spartan301]

Nice!

Great pics everyone! Cool rifles, I love the history behind the markings.

[jigenax]

Here's a pic of a very early No.4 from 1933.

1933No.4.jpg

[sfsppe]

If you're a "Facebooker" there are several C&R groups you may wish to join. I'm in the Arisaka, MN, Enfield, Mauser, French and C&R "for sale/trade" groups.

[ArnoldKC]

I used to be a "Facebooker",not so much anymore because of work..

[81turbota]

Jigenax, thanks for sharing! I haven't seen a crown on a No.4 before. That is very early, must be a rare rifle.

[Spartan301]

Wow!

All capital letters?!?
Sorry, for my one bad pic, I don't have natural lighting in my missile silo, maybe I can open up the blast doors a little.
Thanks to everyone for the pics and info. on Enfields. I've learned some history on mine. Good thread OP!

[mj1]

All capital letters?!?


Sorry, for my one bad pic, I don't have natural lighting in my missile silo, maybe I can open up the blast doors a little.

BLOODY FUNNY...

[Spartan301]

Beautiful rifles mj1! Great pic!
Any interesting maker marks or cartouches on those rifles?

[bruceflinch]

Nice Thread OP. Giving me some flashbacks. I'm also enamored with the Lee Enfields. There are SO FRICKING MANY variations! I think I quit at 7 or 8. Ran out of safe storage!

You're correct that they used several types of rifles but their primary rifles were Standard Modell Mausers and copies of it (commonly called Chiang Kai-shek type rifles). You can see some here http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1076089



The plain broad arrow was a British acceptance mark.



British Commonwealth countries used variations of the broad arrow



Royal Canadian Air Force


Canada


New Zealand

What mark did the US Savage have? Oh, I should look at mine when I get home...

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You are correct. Just got home and started looking at the Enfields. Here's a pic of the R/S makers mark on my SMLE 1918 in .303 Enfield.

I have your same model but a Lithgow (Asussie)


[QUOTE=mj1;16377060]All capital letters?!?
Sorry, for my one bad pic, I don't have natural lighting in my missile silo, maybe I can open up the blast doors a little.
BLOODY FUNNY...


All CAPS is YELLING! Get into the new age, MJ

[mj1]

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Don't overlook China. Most people seem to forget that 14 million Chinese died during World War II. I think that qualifies as being a major participant.

Indeed. I would like to buy a Chinese contract Standard Modell or "Chang Kai-Shek" Mauser if I ever saw one that didn't look like it was rescued from a swamp. They are usually in just awful condition unfortunately.