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  • Bobby Ricigliano
    Mit Gott und Mauser
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2011
    • 17439

    M1 Carbine Issues.. I HATE THIS RIFLE

    I have a James River Armory "Rock-ola" M1 carbine that I bought about 1.5 years ago. James River bought the Rock-ola name. It is NOT an original Rock-ola........ I finally got around to shooting it today. The rifle looks brand new, and is described as a new mfg receiver, barrel, and stock. The rest of the parts are refinished or reparkerized USGI surplus.

    After disassembling and putting a light bit of Lubriplate on the contact points, I took it for a spin today. Ammunition was factory Aguila FMJ brass ammo and Korean surplus 15 round magazines.

    The rifle shot well enough, although a couple times the bolt closed after ejection on an empty chamber. I chalked that up as likely a magazine problem.

    After maybe 30 rounds total, the rifle fired and ejected, and appeared to go back into battery. A metal piece came off the bolt and fell on the table. The bolt was closed but seized up solid. No bodily force could budge it open, even a rubber mallet I had.

    I took the rifle home and took it apart. I still haven't got the bolt or bolt handle to move. The good news is the stock, trigger group, and receiver seem to be OK. The bolt is clearly toast, but I am not well versed with these rifles so I am not exactly sure what is broken.

    I will be posting pics in a few minutes, and any feedback is most appreciated.
    Last edited by Bobby Ricigliano; 05-28-2015, 8:18 PM.
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    CSACANNONEER
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    • Dec 2006
    • 44094

    I hope you verified that there isn't a live round still in it.
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    • #3
      Bainter1212
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2013
      • 5936

      Dude.....that sucks. If a rubber mallet won't do the trick, I don't know what will. Maybe a cleaning rod down the barrel and a hammer?

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      • #4
        Bobby Ricigliano
        Mit Gott und Mauser
        CGN Contributor
        • Feb 2011
        • 17439

        I cannot disassemble it any further. The bolt will move backward about 1/2".









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        • #5
          Bobby Ricigliano
          Mit Gott und Mauser
          CGN Contributor
          • Feb 2011
          • 17439

          Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
          I hope you verified that there isn't a live round still in it.
          I don't think there is, but I can't say for sure. It is disassembled and stored with the muzzle in a safe direction. I can't imagine it could fire without the trigger / hammer but that is definitely a safety consideration.

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          • #6
            Bobby Ricigliano
            Mit Gott und Mauser
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2011
            • 17439

            Coming soon to a "Gunsmith Special" WTS thread near you!!!!!

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            • #7
              TRICKSTER
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              • Mar 2008
              • 12438

              Looks like the extractor snapped.


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              • #8
                TRICKSTER
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Mar 2008
                • 12438

                Can you get the firing pin out through the back and force the bolt to rotate back down into battery?


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                • #9
                  Bobby Ricigliano
                  Mit Gott und Mauser
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 17439

                  Originally posted by TRICKSTER
                  Can you get the firing pin out through the back and force the bolt to rotate back down into battery?
                  I'll try that. I know the firing pin wasn't dangling out of the back of the bolt before, but now it is. I will give that a shot. Thanks.

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                  • #10
                    smle-man
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 10602

                    It looks similar to a problem that the M14 had when first introduced. The extractor wasn't relieved enough and the rim of blanks would pull the extractor out and dump the guts of the bolt into the action. I think the rim of one of your rounds pulled the extractor out and the ejector or spring or both is jammed between the bolt and the receiver. I'd contact JRA before doing anything you might regret to the action like pounding it open.

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                    • #11
                      CSACANNONEER
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                      • Dec 2006
                      • 44094

                      Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
                      I don't think there is, but I can't say for sure. It is disassembled and stored with the muzzle in a safe direction. I can't imagine it could fire without the trigger / hammer but that is definitely a safety consideration.
                      Without putting your hand directly in front of the muzzle, insert a cleaning rod into the muzzle and measure how far in it goes. Then compare that with the length of the barrel. You should easily see if a live round is stuck or not. This should have been done prior to transporting, disassembling, or HITTING it with a mallet. Safety first.
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                      • #12
                        marksmandowntown
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                        • Apr 2009
                        • 1403

                        Sorry that happened Bobby, but at least you didn't get hurt. That story Latigo told about his dad's bolt blowing up and embedding itself in his 12 year old son's chest still haunts me a little bit (maybe because my son is close to that age). Good luck with it.
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                        • #13
                          SWalt
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                          • Jan 2012
                          • 8702

                          That really sucks. I'd be pissed if a new weapon did this. Wish I had something to offer other than condolences.
                          ^^^The above is just an opinion.

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                          • #14
                            DirtyRussianAmmo
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 1366

                            Originally posted by smle-man
                            I'd contact JRA before doing anything you might regret to the action like pounding it open.
                            +1

                            Sorry this happened. Thankfully you weren't hurt!

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                            • #15
                              emy
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 901

                              My question here is , why did it take you 1.5 to fire this rifle?

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