winchester 94

[aznanimekid]

hey gang

my friend was recently robbed and this rifle was the only one left they didnt take. thought i'd help him out by cleaning it up as it hasn't been used in awhile. there's some minor rust on the receiver and the bore is full of dust/debris. was wondering what is the safest way of disassembling it and giving it a good clean to see if it can still shoot?

[roc_my_tims]

Sorry to hear about your friend.

Any details about the robbery, info like this could help keep others from being a victim

[Grendl]

You tube is you friend in cases like this (disassembly and cleaning instructions)

[G-Man WC]

Sorry to hear about your friend.
What rifle do you want to take apart?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjPlLQf73gQ

Rust, dust/debris! I'm thinking the rip off's knew
what they were looking at when they didn't take it.
-g

[aznanimekid]

typical story. looks like someone scoped him out. safe not bolted. it was a quick in out. the 94 was hidden elsewhere so its why they didnt grab it. its a winchester 94 in 30 30. i was wondering what would be the safest way to remove the rust without damaging the rest of the finish. i cleaned the bore and it looks good as new. gonna dive into the internals once i finish the youtube videos

[Enfield47]

What type of rust are you talking about and where? Is it pitting the metal or just a patina? If it's just a patina, that's pretty common on the receiver and where the bluing has been rubbed off. A wipe down with an oiled rag will be all it needs if it's patina rust. If it's more aggressive rust, then you will need to use some Kroil or WD40 and a brass brush to get it out of the pits. Go slow and easy and don't be aggressive or you will take off the remaining bluing.

[pterrell]

Sorry about your friend. Hopefully he learns his lesson about the safe and invests differently next time. Typically I'll use regular gun oil and a slightly abrasive cloth. A green scrub pad would work for the tougher stuff but don't go too crazy on it. For the internals, depending on what it is, might try a diluted CLR bath. Remember to make it weak or the acids will do more harm than good.

[aznanimekid]

abrasive cleaning pad did the trick thanks guys. now i'm having trouble with the front barrel band screw, it looks like its a little corroded and beginning to strip, even after a good soak. anyone recommend an extractor type deal to remove it?

[TRAP55]

Barrel band screws are the most common to have strip out.
I need the full serial number to date it, then I can link you to an oversized replacement screw if you bork that one getting it out.
I've had luck using a brass pin punch to put pressure on the end of the screw, while un-threading it. If you get "real lucky", backing it out will chase the threads in the band.

[aznanimekid]

i'm thinking i might need to try the left handed drill bit idea to see if it'll help unscrew as the extractor set i have is a bit big for it. the serial number is 1663416

[TRAP55]

Made early in 1949.
If the band threads survive:

http://homesteadparts.com/shopcart/pid_850.htm

Couldn't find the link I was looking for that has the screw with oversized threads. Jim might be the one, you'll have to call him and ask. Great guy to deal with too.

http://tapaderaswinchesters.com/partslist.html

[aznanimekid]

bumping this up again. i got everything apart but am having trouble removing the firing pin. it supposedly drops free but mine seems to be catching against something. did i miss something or are the instructions i found online incorrect?

[TRAP55]

It's a Pre '64, changes were made post '64. There's a stop pin that has to be removed before the firing pin comes out.

http://stevespages.com/ipb-winchester-94.html