Need help IDing old ammo

[damngato]

My dad made a very cool framed display of about 60 old cartridges. I inherited the display and noticed a few of the cartridges hadn't been identified. The backing was getting faded so I pulled off the back and took out the 3 unidentified cartridges. I'm hoping you guys can help.

1) Looks similar to a .308 to me. On the bottom it says 4/18/S67/D from what I can tell.





2) No idea, it looks like it could have the lead reinserted to the shell. The lead looks to have a stamp which may say 75 on one line and 80P on the other? Those could both be wrong



3) Again, no idea. This one I can hear powder in but I see no markings.



I'd like to try and ID these and then put the display back together. Once I get is back together I'll take some pictures. Some pretty cool old cartridges. Thank you in advance for your help.

[56tchr]

here ya' go

Hi , According to "Cartridge Headstamp Guide" by H.P. White ( pub 1963 ) page 46 , exemplar no. 341 - 7.92 X 57mm . German Mauser of WW I period. Produced fourth month of 1918 . S67 denotes brass case alloy . Your "D" is the manufacturers code , possibly Gustav Genschow & Co. at their Durlach plant ..... take care, Dave gman@goldrush.com

[joe_gman]

The top one is definitely 8mm Mauser (7.92x57).
My first assessment on the bottom two was wrong. The bullets are too large. mls323 thought that it may be 11mm Mauser seems to be more likely.

[mls343]

The 3rd one looks like an 11mm Mauser.

[damngato]

Thanks guys, I really appreciate it. I'll have to look into these.

[gunboat]

I think both 2 and 3 are 11mm spanish -
They are definitely not 11mm mauser --
The 11mm spanish will be:
2.82 long
2.25 case length
.635 rim dia
.515 body dia.
.510 at the shoulder
.458 neck dia.
.439 bullet dia.
375gr bullet wt
my tuppence

[damngato]

Here is a picture of the two side by side. I'll have to try and measure them more closely. Thanks!

[gunboat]

It appears to me that the bullet in the top case has been pushed in --
Case dimensions will help id the lot -

[damngato]

I think both 2 and 3 are 11mm spanish -
They are definitely not 11mm mauser --
The 11mm spanish will be:
2.82 long
2.25 case length
.635 rim dia
.515 body dia.
.510 at the shoulder
.458 neck dia.
.439 bullet dia.
375gr bullet wt
my tuppence

Thanks again! You were spot on with the measurements and right about the bullet being pushed in. I really appreciate the help

[gunboat]

OH great! Even a blind pig finds an acorn once in a while :-)