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  • 2shotjoe
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2011
    • 26670

    M1D garand

    Fixed the scope issue, fixed the scope mount issue. now it's the poor groups. could be the surplus ammo. ammo from 25-100 i was using some mexican match loads from ap lake city ammo (168gr a-max). then i ran out, switched to some ball lake city surplus ammo(last pic).

    now, time for some real reloading. which would be the best powder to start on?

    btw, crosshire is a big b to put on a messy target, i had to put a clean target up on the last pic to get a clear picture on my final group.

    andddd!, with the added weight, its like shooting a .223 ar-15. no recoil on the shoulder and the muzzle could be controlled. I tend to focus control on the rear. muzzle has a small jump.

    M1D with M84 scope.


    with the offset, scope will always look to the right and the bullet goes left further you shoot.


    25 yard zero, mexican match loads from ap lake city ammo (168gr a-max).


    100 yards, got a bit messy here. at 25 it put the 100 at 6" high and 6" left. took some time to find the target, then i had trouble seeing the center circle. I switched ammo to the m2 ball lake city surplus.


    100 yards, last target and was going for groups. 12 shots, i think its the ammo. i got one box of this lot left and 5 boxes of newer surplus i can try later.
    Originally posted by Kestryll
    ..you're kind of a sad excuse for an attorney...
    Originally posted by Libertarian777
    ...Don't pick either side....
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    Enfield47
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2012
    • 6385

    Originally posted by bloodhawke83
    now, time for some real reloading. which would be the best powder to start on?
    The best powders for the Garand are IMR 4064, IMR 4895, and Hodgdon 4895.
    This is a well beaten path, try 47 gr for any of the above powders with a 150 gr bullet.

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    • #3
      2shotjoe
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Feb 2011
      • 26670

      Originally posted by Enfield47
      The best powders for the Garand are IMR 4064, IMR 4895, and Hodgdon 4895.
      This is a well beaten path, try 47 gr for any of the above powders with a 150 gr bullet.
      They work good with the standard gas plug?

      Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk
      Originally posted by Kestryll
      ..you're kind of a sad excuse for an attorney...
      Originally posted by Libertarian777
      ...Don't pick either side....

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      • #4
        Enfield47
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2012
        • 6385

        Yes, these are the Garand safe and versatile powders. You won't go wrong with any of them. IMR 4895 was the original powder used in the .30-06. I've been using IMR 4064 with great success in my .30-06 reloads for my Garand and 1903A3 and other calibers too (even used it once in .223 for grins and it worked fine).

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        • #5
          Bainter1212
          Calguns Addict
          • Feb 2013
          • 5936

          Looks like Sac Valley.

          If you need a pound of IMR 4895 hit me up. I have a spare pound I can sell you. I am in Elk Grove. Otherwise if you are closer to The Gun Range off Watt and 80 they have had it off and on for awhile now.

          Good luck, hope you can get this thing dialed in.

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          • #6
            Orlando
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 1827

            Is the scope and mount USGI or reproduction? The repros are known for having issues

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            • #7
              2shotjoe
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Feb 2011
              • 26670

              Originally posted by Orlando
              Is the scope and mount USGI or reproduction? The repros are known for having issues
              USGI
              Originally posted by Kestryll
              ..you're kind of a sad excuse for an attorney...
              Originally posted by Libertarian777
              ...Don't pick either side....

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              • #8
                Orlando
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 1827

                I just noticed something from your pictures. You never want to set the front handguard on bags. The handguard is open on the bottom and the op rod will drag inconsistantly and cause accuracy problems.
                I would shoot again with rifle rested on forearm and surplsu ammo. No Mexican match

                The M1D is no more accurate than a standard Garand but you should see better groupings than what you posted

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                • #9
                  2shotjoe
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 26670

                  Originally posted by Orlando
                  I just noticed something from your pictures. You never want to set the front handguard on bags. The handguard is open on the bottom and the op rod will drag inconsistantly and cause accuracy problems.
                  I would shoot again with rifle rested on forearm and surplsu ammo. No Mexican match

                  The M1D is no more accurate than a standard Garand but you should see better groupings than what you posted
                  you could me right, i forgot about that. next time i'll my rem 700 with me to spot my shots.
                  Originally posted by Kestryll
                  ..you're kind of a sad excuse for an attorney...
                  Originally posted by Libertarian777
                  ...Don't pick either side....

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                  • #10
                    sandsnow
                    Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 362

                    By no means a thorough test, here are targets with my M1D from DCM. With and without Three shot groups. Everyone says flash hinder affects accuracy so I had to see for myself.


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                    • #11
                      sammass
                      Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 355

                      M1D

                      Sandsnow: In the hunt for my own M1D, the T37 flash hider was discussed on multiple sites. The consensus was that the aftermarket options were of softer metal and would more easily become bent. If the 'finger' was depressed into the path of the bullet out of the muzzle, it would deflect the bullet. Seems like you proved that theory. USGI hiders were of stouter material, but could also be bent. Most snipers apparently just removed the flash hider. All recommendations indicated you should have a smith make sure the bullet path was clear, no matter who made the hider. Then you needed to be careful to not prang it again. I'm thinking the M2 might be a preferable choice if one has to have a suppressor, but I don't think we need to hide our location at SVSC. :-)

                      Bloodhawke: Have been playing with several recipes based on IMR 4895. Each bullet manufacture adjusts the recommendations probably in conjunction with their legal dept. I've used 168 grain BTHP from both Sierra & Hornady. Did reasonable with 46.5 gr IMR 4895, Hornady 168gr BTHP, CCI 200, and mixed HXP brass. With the M1D, you should easily see & reach out to the Rams on Range 6.

                      Have fun. :-)

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                      • #12
                        sandsnow
                        Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 362

                        sammass
                        I don't know that I proved anything yet. This was a quickie test one day. Same lot of ammo and same weather, but I don't remember if barrel was heated or cool.
                        I'm retiring this spring and looking forward to playing with this a lot more in the fall. I have one of each hider, both USGI and the DCM M1D and CMP M1D with a not so hot barrel. Looking forward to a fun day.

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                        • #13
                          2shotjoe
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 26670

                          My t37 is milled, not the soft reproduction out there.

                          I won't be able to go out for a while now, can't walk. Maybe at the end of April.

                          Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk
                          Originally posted by Kestryll
                          ..you're kind of a sad excuse for an attorney...
                          Originally posted by Libertarian777
                          ...Don't pick either side....

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                          • #14
                            sandsnow
                            Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 362

                            Originally posted by bloodhawke83
                            My t37 is milled, not the soft reproduction out there.

                            I won't be able to go out for a while now, can't walk. Maybe at the end of April.

                            Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk
                            I can relate. I haven't been able to walk since December. Complications from ankle surgery. I hope your issue turns out better.

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