Star Model Super B 9mm Pistol - Questions

[DennisCA]

I saw them on the Classic Arms site and was think of getting one.

https://www.classicfirearms.com/star-model-super-b-9mm-semi-auto-pistol#

I have a couple of questions though:

1) Worth Getting?

2) Since they 1940's-era gun, I'm assuming it is considered a C&R

3) OK to Buy here in Kommie-forina?

BTW - I have a C&R license and a COE

[TRICKSTER]

From what I understand,they were manufactured up until 1983. I do not believe that the Super is on the feds C&R list so you would have to prove that the specific gun that you were purchasing is 50+ years old to make it exempt from the roster before a Dealer here in CA would accept it.

[mosinnagantm9130]

CA got rid of the 50 year requirement for a firearm to be C&R.

Not a clue how that affects roster status...

[TRICKSTER]

CA got rid of the 50 year requirement for a firearm to be C&R.

Not a clue how that affects roster status...

Yes they did, but I don't believe that the Super is on the Feds C&R list so the only way it would qualify as a C&R is if one could prove that the specific pistol purchased was 50+ years old.
This has nothing to do with CA's old 50 year law, it's federal law. As far as CA law, to be roster exempt it must qualify as a C&R. Since it is a handgun it has to go through a dealer and the dealer will not accept a handgun in violation of the roster.

[Quiet]

CA got rid of the 50 year requirement for a firearm to be C&R.

Not a clue how that affects roster status...

CA did not get rid of the 50 year requirement to be C&R.

CA removed the 50 year requirement for transferring C&R long guns without using a CA FFL dealer and changed it so that only a person with a C&R FFL & COE can transfer C&R long guns without using a CA FFL dealer.


In regards to CA unsafe handgun laws...
C&R exemption applies to all handguns that meet the Federal definition of a C&R firearm, which is defined by 27 CFR 478.11. [PC 32000(b)(3)]



Penal Code 32000
(a) Commencing January 1, 2001, any person in this state who manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state for sale, keeps for sale, offers or exposes for sale, gives, or lends any unsafe handgun shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year.
(b) This section shall not apply to any of the following:
(3) Firearms listed as curios or relics, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations.

27 CFR 478.11
Curios or relics.
Firearms which are of special interest to collectors by reason of some quality other than is associated with firearms intended for sporting use or as offensive or defensive weapons. To be recognized as curios or relics, firearms must fall within one of the following categories:
(a) Firearms which were manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas thereof;
(b) Firearms which are certified by the curator of a municipal, State, or Federal museum which exhibits firearms to be curios or relics of museum interest; and
(c) Any other firearms which derive a substantial part of their monetary value from the fact that they are novel, rare, bizarre, or because of their association with some historical figure, period, or event. Proof of qualification of a particular firearm under this category may be established by evidence of present value and evidence that like firearms are not available except as collector's items, or that the value of like firearms available in ordinary commercial channels is substantially less.

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2) Since they 1940's-era gun, I'm assuming it is considered a C&R

The Star Model Super B was made from 1946-1983.

It is not listed as a C&R by BATFE.
Unless, you can prove (via serial number, etc) the specific handgun you are buying was made 50 or more years ago, then it is not a C&R handgun and subject to CA unsafe handgun laws.

All Star Model Super B would be considered C&R in 2034.

[Enfield47]

They aren't listing it on their site as C&R, it just says must ship to an FFL so I would assume they are not eligible.

[Capybara]

You need a Star Model B Dennis, not a Super B. While some of them are C&R by date, it seems that nobody (Classic, AIM or J&G) ever sell them as C&R so they must be too bothered to look them up and verify them as C&R.

[watt79]

I don't have the Super B, but I do have a C&R Model B and it was worth every penny. I think I payed 279 for it.

[Nevada Hudson]

The Super B is around $50 more than the C&R. As I have a C&R. Shipping cost for each will be the same. No fee for background check here as I have a CCW permit. Transfer fee is $20. So will be $30 cheaper if I order the Super B !

[aghauler]

The Star Model Super B was made from 1946-1983.

It is not listed as a C&R by BATFE.
Unless, you can prove (via serial number, etc) the specific handgun you are buying was made 50 or more years ago, then it is not a C&R handgun and subject to CA unsafe handgun laws.

All Star Model Super B would be considered C&R in 2034.

Check the letter Date code on the frame.

[DennisCA]

I rec'd a email from Classic:

They said most of the firearms are dated 1972 or 1973 : (