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  • lawhite92
    Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 287

    FN49 not cycling

    Hey guys,

    I thought I would see what you guys think before I start messing with the gas of the rifle.

    My luxembourg FN49 in 30-06 is not cycling... It would fire the round and when I go to manually cycle the bolt it won't move.

    After dropping the magazines and really getting some leverage and forcing the bolt open, the spent casing would eject and the bolt would move forward and backwards smoothly again without issue.

    I only got through about 3 rounds that day because it would get stuck and not cycle after each round and was a HUGE pain to unjam.

    My question would be, is this due to the gas adjustment valve needing to be tweaked or is something else at play here?

    Thanks for any help

    Would love to get this rifle perfectly running, this rifle is too beautiful not to be shot
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  • #2
    Not that bright
    Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 192

    Check to make sure that the gas valve foreward of the front sight is set for semi auto and not single shot. It may be as simple as turning it 180 degrees. I am assuming that the rifle is cleaned and properly lubed.

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    • #3
      I Swan
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2010
      • 8770

      Using good ammo too?

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      • #4
        lawhite92
        Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 287

        I was shooting hxp Greek surplus i got from CMP. Shoots great from my garand.

        Yes, the rifle was cleaned and lubed.
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        • #5
          FLIGHT762
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 3069

          Originally posted by Not that bright
          Check to make sure that the gas valve foreward of the front sight is set for semi auto and not single shot. It may be as simple as turning it 180 degrees. I am assuming that the rifle is cleaned and properly lubed.
          O/P, you didn't didn't answer if you checked this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^.

          The gas valve on the front should be checked to see if it is set properly (in the auto position, not the grenade position).

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          • #6
            Paulie Lugnuts
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 1756

            The part about the bolt being hard to move after firing a round makes me think the spent casing is getting stuck.
            Because milsurp.

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            • #7
              lawhite92
              Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 287

              Originally posted by FLIGHT762
              O/P, you didn't didn't answer if you checked this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^.

              The gas valve on the front should be checked to see if it is set properly (in the auto position, not the grenade position).
              I will check when I get home, I hope it is that simple.
              Is there a marking on letter that shows if it is in auto position?
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              • #8
                lawhite92
                Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 287

                Originally posted by Paulie Lugnuts
                The part about the bolt being hard to move after firing a round makes me think the spent casing is getting stuck.
                Yeah, do you know what could cause that?

                Is it just a symptom on the heat causing the case to expand and since it isn't cycling, it sticks?
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                • #9
                  CALI-gula
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 6992

                  Originally posted by FLIGHT762
                  O/P, you didn't didn't answer if you checked this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^.

                  The gas valve on the front should be checked to see if it is set properly (in the auto position, not the grenade position).
                  Some 90% of the time that's the problem on these. I've rarely seen an F49 fail to cycle otherwise.

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                  • #10
                    Not that bright
                    Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 192

                    Originally posted by lawhite92
                    I will check when I get home, I hope it is that simple.
                    Is there a marking on letter that shows if it is in auto position?
                    One side of the plug has an "A", the other side has an "R". The "A" should be facing up.

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                    • #11
                      lawhite92
                      Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 287

                      Upon getting home and looking at the rifle. The gas plug was in the "R" position. I flipped that around, so hopefully the next time at the range it will function normally.

                      Do you guys think the action getting stuck after firing is also solved by this or is it something else going on?
                      Remember... Four boxes keep us free: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammo box

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                      • #12
                        penguin0123
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 3089

                        Originally posted by lawhite92
                        Upon getting home and looking at the rifle. The gas plug was in the "R" position. I flipped that around, so hopefully the next time at the range it will function normally.

                        Do you guys think the action getting stuck after firing is also solved by this or is it something else going on?


                        R for rifle grenade (e.g. gas cutoff), A for automatic.

                        When I tried HXP with my Columbian, I found HXP ammo to have too long an OAL to fit in the magazine. Between it and the Garand, I found the FN to have quite a bit less freebore. One possibility is that the HXP was already engaging the lands, causing an overpressure situation that caused the brass to be stuck pretty good. Try dropping a round of HXP into the chamber, then tilt the gun back and see it slides out easily; if not, smoke up the bullet then drop it back into the chamber and see if you can observe rifling marks on it. If yes, don't shoot HXP out of it.

                        I would also suggest you open the gas vent hole all the way open, then progressively close it until it cycles. If your gas is set too aggressively, the bolt may hit the back of the receiver.

                        What the OEM gas wrench looks like:

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                        • #13
                          Discogodfather
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 5516

                          It's most likely just the gas system, it's easy to adjust. Just think FAL, the wrench helps a lot. Once you get it to cycle you might notice the brass being mangled, that's a sign of over gassing. You generally want the gas system to be set at the lowest level it needs to cycle properly, this keeps things low friction and low impact. This is a good how to:

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                          • #14
                            smle-man
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 10580

                            Originally posted by lawhite92
                            Upon getting home and looking at the rifle. The gas plug was in the "R" position. I flipped that around, so hopefully the next time at the range it will function normally.

                            Do you guys think the action getting stuck after firing is also solved by this or is it something else going on?
                            The action will be fine with the proper gas port setting. The initial extraction is funky on FN rifles and there is little leverage available in extracting the fired case, at least for the initial travel of the carrier and bolt. I've resorted to using the shooting table edge on the bolt carrier handle to get a 49 action open in a similar situation. I sure wouldn't want a 49 as a straight pull rifle!

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                            • #15
                              knucklehead0202
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 4086

                              With the proper setting it should work fine with that ammo. I shot Syntax's Luxy fn49 and it was one of the sweetest-shooting rifles I've ever experienced. I'd do bad things in a parking lot to get one of these things...sure to hell can't afford one.

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