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looks really good tom..
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funny thing is a lot of people thinks Chris Costa and the Magpul guys invented this type of technique. It's been used for a while by 3 gun shooters and was ported down by military use for better shot placement and accuracy. And of course it becomes really popular after magpul released their DvD's.
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I'm not on a SWAT team, but I have been trained as an Infantryman. I've been trained during SDM training to hold the weapon by the magwell when prone and kneeling to avoid interference on the barrel and changing POI thanks to the M4/M16 barrel not being free floated.
However, I've also been taught by the same NCOs who taught me to hit targets 550m out with an M4 to control the rifle while shooting from a standing position by holding my arm out extended as far out front as I can get on the weapon. Wasn't taught by Chris Costa, but it works so that's probably why Costa teaches it to people in his classes. People can think it looks silly or that I do it just because the guys in the Magpul videos do, but from my experiences using it I have much more control of my weapon - which for me in my field as an Infantryman really could be the difference between life or death. I'll stick with what works for me regardless if it looks unorthodox.Leave a comment:
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Defensive much? That post wasn't directed at you. Notice how it says "lots of people" not "JohnnyRooks"this topic has beaten to death. but i guess whatever works for ya. but having a thumb over bore technique makes me more efficient and accurate with my rifle. I have a better control and better weapon manipulation. if it makes me better why would i be ashamed to be a called a fanboy?
let's have a game.
Exercise 1: i want you to grab a pen and hold it in the middle. then start writing small letters and capital letters. then tell me if you have a good control of the pen while writing.
Exercise 2: hold the pen near the tip and and starts writing small letters and capital letters and tell me if you have good control of the pen and more precise writing those letters.
It's an analogy but pretty much applicable with the rifle since they are both extension of our hands. Using the thumb over technique will have you hold near the tip of the barrel thus you will have better control of the recoil/muzzle rise compared to holding the mag or any other technique.
Try it next time you shoot your gun. You will thank me later.
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this topic has beaten to death. but i guess whatever works for ya. but having a thumb over bore technique makes me more efficient and accurate with my rifle. I have a better control and better weapon manipulation. if it makes me better why would i be ashamed to be a called a fanboy?
let's have a game.
Exercise 1: i want you to grab a pen and hold it in the middle. then start writing small letters and capital letters. then tell me if you have a good control of the pen while writing.
Exercise 2: hold the pen near the tip and and starts writing small letters and capital letters and tell me if you have good control of the pen and more precise writing those letters.
It's an analogy but pretty much applicable with the rifle since they are both extension of our hands. Using the thumb over technique will have you hold near the tip of the barrel thus you will have better control of the recoil/muzzle rise compared to holding the mag or any other technique.
Try it next time you shoot your gun. You will thank me later.
If you think about it, just purely due to leverage, you're in a better position to control any force on the weapon by having your hand as far out as possible.
Some people make fun of it and say it's the "tacticool" way. Then those same people hold the gun at the magwell, like they're on a swat team with an MP5 or something.Leave a comment:
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I was poking around old threads and saw this and had to laugh. The stuff we have gotten stuffed up our collective tookus' here in Libra-Fornia.
Mine was a somewhat sorrowful chuckle, BTW.
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this topic has beaten to death. but i guess whatever works for ya. but having a thumb over bore technique makes me more efficient and accurate with my rifle. I have a better control and better weapon manipulation. if it makes me better why would i be ashamed to be a called a fanboy?
let's have a game.
Exercise 1: i want you to grab a pen and hold it in the middle. then start writing small letters and capital letters. then tell me if you have a good control of the pen while writing.
Exercise 2: hold the pen near the tip and and starts writing small letters and capital letters and tell me if you have good control of the pen and more precise writing those letters.
It's an analogy but pretty much applicable with the rifle since they are both extension of our hands. Using the thumb over technique will have you hold near the tip of the barrel thus you will have better control of the recoil/muzzle rise compared to holding the mag or any other technique.
Try it next time you shoot your gun. You will thank me later.
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