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Being told something by the DOJ does not mean anything. They tell people all sorts of things, some of which aren't even true. Unless there is a written letter of opinion specifically stating that the BattleComp is not a flash suppresor and it is acceptable for a featureless build than the mere fact that it does reduce the flash signature is enough to classify it as such.
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It is not only if it is marketed as a flash hider. If it meets the written description it is still a flash suppresor. If it is marketed as a flash hider then that wold disqualify it too.
Being told something by the DOJ does not mean anything. They tell people all sorts of things, some of which aren't even true. Unless there is a written letter of opinion specifically stating that the BattleComp is not a flash suppresor and it is acceptable for a featureless build than the mere fact that it does reduce the flash signature is enough to classify it as such. -
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Cool thanks guys.... Because of the help of some of you guys i was able to complete my first featureless rifle... Thanks guys!!!
Here are some pics....
PWS TTO
Pinned ACS Stock
Custom made slip on cover for featureless rifle...
Let me know what you guys think. =) Thanks again for all the help guys!Comment
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You did that yourself? Great job!Comment
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Built back in 2009 - LMT MRP .223, California rifles stock, Troy muzzle brake.
Works great for the bench and varmint shooting I use this for.
The Cal Rifles stock looks a bit funky but it's sure nice having a place put your thumb with this setup.
Last edited by MotoJB; 12-11-2011, 10:54 PM.
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peter95 love the carbon fiber wrap! now make me one
i see hypocrites!!!
"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading" - Thomas JeffersonComment
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Funky? Not at all..! I actually like that set up...!
I thought very hard about something like yours and just a slip on cover like mine.... went with slip on for now since its very cost effective for me...
I was really considering the hammerhead with the stock attachment to it. It looks really good, which resembles yoursComment
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question for ak with dragunov stock
so is it CA legal for me to have my saiga 7.62 with a dragunov style buttstock as long as I have some sort of material filling in the open space on the stock? Can it be homemade? Do I still need a BB? I am so confused. All I have added to the rifle is an angled for grip and the new stock."Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it." Thomas PaineComment
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First off...reading/studying here is your friend! TONS of info if you take the hour or two to use search and read through the threads. Something worth doing if you're into owning guns that are on the edge of the laws within the state you live.
With that said, I'm assuming your a CA resident and aren't LE or Military or carry any other special exemptions. Therefore, if you have "removable mags" on your Saiga...you can't combine it with the other "evil features" identified by the DOJ (pistol grip, bayonet lug, flash hider, forend grip, etc.). It has to be "featureless" (aside from the removable mag).
The point of building a "featureless rifle" (at least for me) is to have one build where I don't have to use a bullet button. If using a standard mag release however, you are required by law remove the other "banned features" - that is, do something about the bayonet lug (if any), flash hider (if any), ensure the rifle can't be classified as having a pistol grip, etc.
In the case of AR's, there are a lot of stock solutions available to address the pistol grip feature issue. In my case, I bought the California Rifles stock (which still gives you a place to wrap your thumb and give you "grip" on the rifle, but isn't classified as a pistol grip.
In your case, you'd have to fill in the thumb-grip hole (yes it can be homemade as long as it conforms to the law), replace the flash hider with a muzzle brake and remove any bayonet lug (if any).
If using a bullet button - it requires "tooling" to remove the mag, so you can have all of the other "evil features" on the rifle you want (except for silencers or grenade launchers.
Feel free to correct me if I missed anything here folks.Last edited by MotoJB; 12-12-2011, 5:09 PM. Comment
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Cool, thanks Peter95.
Yeah, the slip covers or monsterman grips are cheap but I just couldn't stand the way they felt at the range. I personally have to have somewhere to put my thumb and I want to be able to hold the rifle's weight in one hand (my right) and shoot Rambo style while on horseback if needed (kidding). The CA Rifles stock allows for that. Not cheap but very well made and functional for a featureless rifle. Comment
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Munkeeboi Wrap + Ammo = Winning!!!
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Just a quick note, the bayonet lug's not a prohibited feature in CA... No need to grind 'em off.
Oh, forgot this is a pictures thread. Here's a mod I did with a blemished hammerhead and a bit of Sculpey clay and some automotive primer. Just monkeying around a bit to show how you can take the Hammerhead and with a little bit of effort and fifty cents worth of materials make it your own...
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they work great I two u-15 setups...and one hammerhead setup which is on this thread theyre nice.Walked in application: May 10th 2021
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