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  • kAnJii
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 771

    Loctite and handguards

    Hello all,

    Is everyone using BLUE loctite when screwing down their handguard/handrail systems near the barrel nut? Or RED loctite or none at all or????
  • #2
    starsnuffer
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 2212

    If your handguard needs locktite they're doing it wrong.

    -W

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    • #3
      ASD1
      1/2 BANNED
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Apr 2012
      • 1793

      blue
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      • #4
        Jules Winfield
        Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 115

        Blue

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        • #5
          jkody
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 1081

          Blue

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          • #6
            Pryde
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 2506

            Some manufacturer's like KAC require loctite for installation of their rails, but if the rail manufacturer does not call for it do not use it.

            Its not needed you will do more harm than good when you need to take it off.

            Anti seize lubricant is preferable because it will allow you to tighten it a little more and will make it not as difficult to remove.

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            • #7
              Bansh88
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 2500

              Used red loctite on some off-road lights years ago. Had to undo the bolt soon after installation. Messed it all up. Never sat right again.
              I'd only use red on something I was confident I would NEVER have to undo.

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              • #8
                protohyp
                Vendor/Retailer
                • Sep 2014
                • 3349

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                • #9
                  kozumasbullitt
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 2912

                  Originally posted by starsnuffer
                  If your handguard needs locktite they're doing it wrong.

                  -W
                  All my KAC rails called for loctite and my Larue PredatAR had loctate on the rail to receiver screws, please enlighten us on why they are doing it wrong.

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                  • #10
                    starsnuffer
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 2212

                    Originally posted by kozumasbullitt
                    All my KAC rails called for loctite and my Larue PredatAR had loctate on the rail to receiver screws, please enlighten us on why they are doing it wrong.
                    If they engineered it so poorly that they need to use loctite, then they're doing it wrong from the getgo.

                    What do you expect from a government contractor like KAC though. They could learn a thing or two from Geissele. . . you know, the people who get the contracts to replace the stock government crap.

                    -W

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                    • #11
                      jetman624
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 514

                      I just put together an ALG defense rail and used blue loctite on the screws that hold the rail to the barrel nut.

                      If you ever use red loctite on anything, plan to use some heat to soften it up before trying to take the screws out.

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                      • #12
                        2shotjoe
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 26308

                        go blue, red will work but you'll need a heat gun to remove items.
                        Originally posted by Kestryll
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                        • #13
                          HotelCommiefornia
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 746

                          If Loctite, always blue. Red is permanent and a bi*tch to loosen.

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                          • #14
                            kozumasbullitt
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 2912

                            Originally posted by starsnuffer
                            If they engineered it so poorly that they need to use loctite, then they're doing it wrong from the getgo.

                            What do you expect from a government contractor like KAC though. They could learn a thing or two from Geissele. . . you know, the people who get the contracts to replace the stock government crap.

                            -W
                            Blue loctite is such a commonly used product, it is asinine to ascertain that poor engineering is associated with the use of loctite.
                            Last edited by kozumasbullitt; 01-22-2015, 4:27 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Pryde
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 2506

                              Originally posted by starsnuffer
                              If they engineered it so poorly that they need to use loctite, then they're doing it wrong from the getgo.

                              What do you expect from a government contractor like KAC though. They could learn a thing or two from Geissele. . . you know, the people who get the contracts to replace the stock government crap.

                              -W
                              KAC URX rails require loctite because the barrel nut is aluminum. You cannot torque an aluminum barrel nut to a high enough value before it strips out, so you need to have the added strength from the loctite.

                              For a steel barrel nut, you are absolutely correct that if you are using loctite you are doing it wrong.

                              The Predatar uses loctite on the receiver screws because again, it is aluminum on aluminum. You cannot tighten the screws to a high enough torque value without stripping out the threads on the receiver, hence the use of loctite. I bet you that if the barrel nut is steel on the Larue, it is not loctited on.

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