Slidefire guys come in

[teetsjones]

23)*As used in this section, a "multiburst trigger activator" means*one of the following devices:

(A)*A device designed or redesigned to be attached to a semiautomatic firearm which allows the*firearm to discharge two or more shots in a burst by activating the device.*

(B)*A manual or power-driven trigger activating device constructed and designed so that when*attached to a semiautomatic firearm it increases the rate of fire of that firearm.__________________________________________ ________ ________________________________

You can activate the device on a loaded firearm and it will not fire. The device does not touch the trigger. The trigger is activated when it touches the shooters finger. Pretty simple.

The device once activated causes multi burst fire. The law did not say attached to the trigger, it said attached to a "semiautomatic firearm". The trigger ACTIVATES the device, the device then causes auto/burst fire.

The key is the trigger activates the device, the device causes auto fire. Pretty simple....
Especially when you read how the law is written.

[major burnout]

The device once activated causes multi burst fire. The law did not say attached to the trigger, it said attached to a "semiautomatic firearm". The trigger ACTIVATES the device, the device then causes auto/burst fire.

The key is the trigger activates the device, the device causes auto fire. Pretty simple....
Especially when you read how the law is written.

Oh I thought ' auto' was when the trigger needed to be pulled once and the gun would fire until the trigger reset. I thought 'burst' was when multiple shots were fired with one pull of the trigger.

Your other claim of the trigger activating the device seems to be false. Can you explain the process of how the trigger activates the device? Im excited to learn.

[major burnout]

Still with the alligator mouth jaybird ***.
Put your money where your mouth is, get one use it, let us know. Otherwise hush please.

Awwe thats so cute. You dug up a thread from 2 weeks ago just to talk to me. You wanna talk, we'll talk. Ive got my new #1 fan.

[major burnout]

You've overlooked one little problem with your train of logic - if you can call it that. Without the operator's finger resting on the device, pressing the forend forward results in no pew. That makes the step of placing the finger a part of activating the device. I savvy just fine, you seem to be having a comprehension problem... or perhaps you're too far up that famous river to be affected by fact.

@ majorburnout, et. al - All the jailhouse lawyering in this thread is fun to read, but obviously mere facts aren't going to change some opinions. Go ahead, buy one, have fun with it, post it on Facebook. Have someone else post when you're booked as you won't find a PC in your cell. I promise to laugh when I hear about it but don't plan to contribute to your defense. I've said all I have to say, now put your money where your mouth is.

Ok ok like your avitar commands, I will comply.


Would you seriously laugh if someone got arrested for something as harmless as bump firing a rifle? That seems strange to me.

[barrage]

Any video that starts out with "Hey Guys" is clicked off immediately.

Any video that starts out with rotund bearded men in sunglasses is clicked off immediately.

Any video that features pointless rapid firing into the side of a hill or other such nonsense is clicked off immediately.

Thus, most gun videos, and anything made by " ________ Tactical" are clicked off immediately.

[bwiese]

Yes in NV now. But Im sure others have gone OUT OF STATE to try it, wink.

Um, even possessing one - even disassembled from a gun and/or not even having the matching gun - may well be illegal in CA given the breadth of the law.

[bwiese]

You cant say why the slidefire is illegal so you try to make it personal. Weak weak weak and pathetic.

Sack up and tell me why the slidefire is illegal. Come at me bro! Lol

OK, sonny...

Drawing parallels btwn the Bullet Button-style maglocks and a SlideFire device fails, because:

- former has separate regulatory definition that controls/reshapes the
statute;

- the latter has no such thing; statute alone is broad/subject to judge/DA
interpretation. No shaping from regulation Easy slam-dunk for conviction
in CA.

- the definition of MBTA is what controls, not the fact that it may (or not)
attach to the trigger - that's irrelevant. They could've called it a 'purple
hamster masturbator' and it would still be illegal by its functional
definition how it works.

- Also, the SlideFire is not an AW 'evil feature' that can be overridden
by presence of a BB maglock (unlike a telestock or FH). It's a separate
body of law.

- In addition, SlideFire and other MBTA devices are likely intrinisically
illegal without being installed on a gun or even possessing the matching
gun.

Bottom line, the SlideFire will be seen in CA courts as a device increasing rate of fire. The crime lab test protocol will be an
ordinary person firing - even bump firing - a stock AR. The statndard rate of fire possible will be seen with slight modulations
of timing due to momentary bump firing increases. Then the SlideFire will be installed on the same AR, and the tester will
easily be able to generate a higher rate of fire. Bingo => definition satisfied, conviction.

People have already been busted for HellFires & similar products.

In addition, during the 2011-12 brouhaha during Yee's SB249 (?) attempt to ban the BulletButton, a spokeswoman for CA AG
Kamala Harris - and who knew a bit of the law - specifically called out the device as deeply concerning but "not yet found illegal
in court."


You gotta lot to learn, sonny. Reading Is Fundamental.

[Grumpyoldretiredcop]

Would you seriously laugh if someone got arrested for something as harmless as bump firing a rifle? That seems strange to me.

Mere bump firing is not enough to complete the offense, as they say. That's not what we've been discussing. Nice try.

I wouldn't laugh at just anyone, I save that for jailhouse lawyers. I know, it's not supposed to be okay to laugh at certain folks, but I'm retired and don't have to politically correct these days... and so I'm not.

[major burnout]

Mere bump firing is not enough to complete the offense, as they say. That's not what we've been discussing. Nice try.

I wouldn't laugh at just anyone, I save that for jailhouse lawyers. I know, it's not supposed to be okay to laugh at certain folks, but I'm retired and don't have to politically correct these days... and so I'm not.

I will comply. I wont use or buy a bumpfire stock. Hopefully this makes you happy and you have a happy retirement.

[major burnout]

OK, sonny...

Drawing parallels btwn the Bullet Button-style maglocks and a SlideFire device fails, because:

- former has separate regulatory definition that controls/reshapes the
statute;

- the latter has no such thing; statute alone is broad/subject to judge/DA
interpretation. No shaping from regulation Easy slam-dunk for conviction
in CA.

- the definition of MBTA is what controls, not the fact that it may (or not)
attach to the trigger - that's irrelevant. They could've called it a 'purple
hamster masturbator' and it would still be illegal by its functional
definition how it works.

- Also, the SlideFire is not an AW 'evil feature' that can be overridden
by presence of a BB maglock (unlike a telestock or FH). It's a separate
body of law.

- In addition, SlideFire and other MBTA devices are likely intrinisically
illegal without being installed on a gun or even possessing the matching
gun.

Bottom line, the SlideFire will be seen in CA courts as a device increasing rate of fire. The crime lab test protocol will be an
ordinary person firing - even bump firing - a stock AR. The statndard rate of fire possible will be seen with slight modulations
of timing due to momentary bump firing increases. Then the SlideFire will be installed on the same AR, and the tester will
easily be able to generate a higher rate of fire. Bingo => definition satisfied, conviction.

People have already been busted for HellFires & similar products.

In addition, during the 2011-12 brouhaha during Yee's SB249 (?) attempt to ban the BulletButton, a spokeswoman for CA AG
Kamala Harris - and who knew a bit of the law - specifically called out the device as deeply concerning but "not yet found illegal
in court."


You gotta lot to learn, sonny. Reading Is Fundamental.

Is the slidefire stock a MTBA? Can you explain how the slidefire activates the trigger? Im asking because I dont see how it is a trigger activator.

Your Increasing the rate of fire argument might be good for those who want to incarcerate gun owners. Lets say someone puts a lighter trigger with a faster reset in their rifle to help them fire more rounds in the same amount of time during a 3 gun comp. Would the courts find that the added trigger increases the rate of fire, thus turning everyone who has a good trigger on their rifle into a felon?



Thank you for teaching me.

[major burnout]

Not a bad video but this one is better!
Look at the way the stock is designed. The design of the stock and bipod allows him to fire very fast.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A8O05T77pgY

[major burnout]

Still with the alligator mouth jaybird ***.
Put your money where your mouth is, get one use it, let us know. Otherwise hush please.

Teet, do you own a device that increases the rate of fire on your AR, like a bipod or a stock or a light crispy trigger with a fast reset.

Whats the matter, alligator got your tongue?