G3 Heavy buffer???

[morepoop4u]

Anyone put one on or know what the specs are for the internal spring? It seems like a simple DIY project.

http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/HK-HEAVY-BUFFER-U-S-PCS-2p1957.htm

[valley82]

Put one on all three of my 91 builds.
No clue on spring rates, had no reason to measure them...

[morepoop4u]

Put one on all three of my 91 builds.
No clue on spring rates, had no reason to measure them...

How do you like it?

Anyone try this buffer insert

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/949554/buffer-technologies-recoil-buffer-hk-91-93-g3-polyurethane

[valley82]

Love the rifles...although I have not shot a 91 without it so I have nothing to compare it to.

[ptoguy2002]

Skip the rubber buffer. The standard G3/91 has a buffer in it already that when you use that midway one, basically causes it not to work.
Reports on hkpro of the ghillie built / RTG parts buffer have been good that I have read, have no personal experience.

[NPettinato14]

[FeuerFrei]

IMO your money is better spent on trigger work in stead of a buffer swap.

Taming a 91 or clone needs a little more work aka, trigger, comp/brake and buffer to get her to shoot flat. Buy the combo plate instead of a la cart for best results.

[Ki6vsm]

IMO your money is better spent on trigger work in stead of a buffer swap.

How do we know the OP hasn't already improved his trigger? And anyway, what's wrong with doing both? Not mutually exclusive mods.

Look at me. Big talker. LOL I have an HK91 in my safe that's had a Williams trigger job done on it, PLUS I installed the "heavy" buffer at one point. Been that way for years and I still haven't taken it out to the desert. Maybe this year.

[FeuerFrei]

How do we know the OP hasn't already improved his trigger? And anyway, what's wrong with doing both? Not mutually exclusive mods.

Look at me. Big talker. LOL I have an HK91 in my safe that's had a Williams trigger job done on it, PLUS I installed the "heavy" buffer at one point. Been that way for years and I still haven't taken it out to the desert. Maybe this year.

You have 2/3 of the combo plate.

Shame on you for not taking it out of the safe and letting it do it's thing.

I left my gen 1 PTR as is except for swapping furniture for wood. It's a great rifle and a dead clone of a 91. It's burned a few cases of ammo with good accuracy/reliability.

IMO recoil is not worthy of discussion, but not everybody shares my opinion. Maybe the OP weighs 120# soaking wet?

[heyjerr]

When I got my PTR I found that the buffer was actually stuck and the impact of the recoil was very sharp/sudden. I bought the RTG buffer and the Springfield trigger and haven't looked back.

My PTR was built during the AWB so it does not have a threaded barrel. Would love to find a way to tame the fireball this thing kicks out....absolutely blinding at night.

[NPettinato14]

When I got my PTR I found that the buffer was actually stuck and the impact of the recoil was very sharp/sudden. I bought the RTG buffer and the Springfield trigger and haven't looked back.

My PTR was built during the AWB so it does not have a threaded barrel. Would love to find a way to tame the fireball this thing kicks out....absolutely blinding at night.

If you have a 16" barrel and want to lessen the flash, go to a lower grain bullet. 308 is really intended for a 20" barrel. Anything shorter is going to start burning powder in front of the muzzle. If you go that way, do watch for the type of projectile being used, as that may be what accounts for the drop in weight and not the powder (frangible, hollow point, etc.)

The 18" was built for 147 grain 7.62x51 NATO, which has less powder than 308 Winchester due to the thicker case wall. You truly have no reason to go up to above 160 with a PTR, IMO. It's a waste of money and powder.

I've noticed that the NATO ammo definitely has a tamed flash compared to 308 Win. MEN/Magtech/Sellier & Bellot are your best bets there (again, IMO).

[Caflashbob]

Most non hk springs would probably not be as long lived as hk spec ones. I went all the way with a Spuhr buttstock, m21e buffer. Limbsaver buttpad.

[Ki6vsm]

You have 2/3 of the combo plate.

Shame on you for not taking it out of the safe and letting it do it's thing.

I left my gen 1 PTR as is except for swapping furniture for wood. It's a great rifle and a dead clone of a 91. It's burned a few cases of ammo with good accuracy/reliability.

IMO recoil is not worthy of discussion, but not everybody shares my opinion. Maybe the OP weighs 120# soaking wet?

The other 1/3? If you're talking about a muzzle break/comp, no thank you. I don't care for them. I'll stick with the flash suppressor the Germans installed. It's the kind with the retaining ring. I don't think the recoil reduction would be worth the extra noise.

I did also installed a short clamp-on rail to the top. I forget who it's made by. Some company in Switzerland I think. So I can put on a low rise RDS, or a LPV if I want. And it doesn't block the irons.

Yeah, maybe this year. I do have a little stockpile of 7.62 NATO I haven't tapped into yet.

[FeuerFrei]

The other 1/3? If you're talking about a muzzle break/comp, no thank you. I don't care for them. I'll stick with the flash suppressor the Germans installed. It's the kind with the retaining ring. I don't think the recoil reduction would be worth the extra noise.

I did also installed a short clamp-on rail to the top. I forget who it's made by. Some company in Switzerland I think. So I can put on a low rise RDS, or a LPV if I want. And it doesn't block the irons.

Yeah, maybe this year. I do have a little stockpile of 7.62 NATO I haven't tapped into yet.

My rifle likes German surplus DAG for accuracy, but for plinking purposes I run steel cased cheap skate stuff thru it. This thing is a grinder. Never been a picky eater since day 1 of shooting it.

I agree with you about brakes in general. Obnoxious things to be sure.