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  • rolly
    Member
    • May 2008
    • 493

    gas piston question

    It looks like the industry is going back to gas piston (bushmaster etc...)

    WHY ?

    I heard that:
    Gas piston is more reliable but is not very acurate.

    Anything new with the technology?
  • #2
    ChrisXD45T
    Member
    • May 2008
    • 472

    Not necessarily going back to it, just offering it along side current production to catch the wave of piston AR hype that's come along.

    Some work very well (emphasis on some, I can only come up with 3 and Bushmaster ain't one), but don't offer any improvements in function or reliability that may justify their price tag.

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    • #3
      bohoki
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 20826

      it should keep the action cleaner but i think it puts more stress on certain parts because it is a kind of retrofit instead of a complete redesign

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      • #4
        X-NewYawker
        In Memoriam
        • May 2008
        • 5993

        Use a clean target and prove it!



        Seriously, my Addax GPU shoots cleaner and softer than my DI Ars. It is a wonder. Scope just arrived so groups next week.

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        • #5
          badicedog
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 3157

          gas piston accuracy

          i own two gas piston ARs, a Robinson Armament XCR, the other a HK416. I love both. Both are reliable, accurate and low maintenance. The HK is deadly accurate just with the iron sights(2-4 inch groups at 200 yrds), the XCR 2-4 inch groups at 100 rds with eotech). For an AR, how much more accurate do you want? Get a sub moa bolt action if thats what you are looking for. ARs were not designed to be sub moa rifles.
          "Americans used to roar like lions for liberty;now we bleat like sheep for security."

          ~ Norman Vincent Peale

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          • #6
            Addax
            Vendor/Retailer
            • Apr 2006
            • 4080

            Originally posted by badicedog
            i own two gas piston ARs, a Robinson Armament XCR, the other a HK416. I love both. Both are reliable, accurate and low maintenance. The HK is deadly accurate just with the iron sights(2-4 inch groups at 200 yrds), the XCR 2-4 inch groups at 100 rds with eotech). For an AR, how much more accurate do you want? Get a sub moa bolt action if thats what you are looking for. ARs were not designed to be sub moa rifles.
            The XCR is not quite a true AR Gas Piston AR, it is their own development of a full gas piston rifle that uses some AR parts, but the lower and upper receivers are not true AR receivers.
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            • #7
              Addax
              Vendor/Retailer
              • Apr 2006
              • 4080

              Originally posted by X-NewYawker
              Use a clean target and prove it!



              Seriously, my Addax GPU shoots cleaner and softer than my DI Ars. It is a wonder. Scope just arrived so groups next week.

              Fine, next week, I will shoot some clean paper just for you.
              ADDAX TACTICAL
              1431 Truman St.
              Unit E
              San Fernando, CA 91340

              Email: sales@addaxtactical.com

              Phone: (818) 361-5008

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              • #8
                badicedog
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 3157

                [QUOTE=Addax;1578778]The XCR is not quite a true AR Gas Piston AR, it is their own development of a full gas piston rifle that uses some AR parts, but the lower and upper receivers are not true AR receivers.[/QUO

                Its the best of both worlds! Accuracy of an AR, reliability of the AK
                "Americans used to roar like lions for liberty;now we bleat like sheep for security."

                ~ Norman Vincent Peale

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                • #9
                  X-NewYawker
                  In Memoriam
                  • May 2008
                  • 5993

                  An ARK!

                  The Lost ARK!

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                  • #10
                    badicedog
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 3157

                    Originally posted by X-NewYawker
                    An ARK!

                    The Lost ARK!
                    I like it! LMAO...
                    "Americans used to roar like lions for liberty;now we bleat like sheep for security."

                    ~ Norman Vincent Peale

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                    • #11
                      Addax
                      Vendor/Retailer
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 4080

                      [quote=badicedog;1578830]
                      Originally posted by Addax
                      The XCR is not quite a true AR Gas Piston AR, it is their own development of a full gas piston rifle that uses some AR parts, but the lower and upper receivers are not true AR receivers.[/QUO

                      Its the best of both worlds! Accuracy of an AR, reliability of the AK
                      So is the Addax GPU

                      The XCR is a great rifle, and I own one.

                      I love the fact that you can change barrels pretty easily on it for caliber conversion.
                      ADDAX TACTICAL
                      1431 Truman St.
                      Unit E
                      San Fernando, CA 91340

                      Email: sales@addaxtactical.com

                      Phone: (818) 361-5008

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                      • #12
                        Addax
                        Vendor/Retailer
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 4080

                        Originally posted by X-NewYawker
                        An ARK!

                        The Lost ARK!
                        LOL
                        ADDAX TACTICAL
                        1431 Truman St.
                        Unit E
                        San Fernando, CA 91340

                        Email: sales@addaxtactical.com

                        Phone: (818) 361-5008

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                        • #13
                          akjunkie
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 3496

                          Originally posted by X-NewYawker
                          An ARK!

                          The Lost ARK!

                          LOL, isnt that called the Daewoo K1??

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                          • #14
                            badicedog
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 3157

                            I like the addax GPU and have fired it at angeles. Much lighter than the POF. However, I dont like the fact that you have to mill the upper receiver to install the gas piston and its not compatible with some quad rails. If you developed something that you can still use your own BCG and is a drop in system... Thats what Im waiting for. I think adam arms has a system already but Im going to wait. I dont like to be the R&D guy on my dime...
                            "Americans used to roar like lions for liberty;now we bleat like sheep for security."

                            ~ Norman Vincent Peale

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                            • #15
                              ChrisXD45T
                              Member
                              • May 2008
                              • 472

                              Originally posted by akjunkie
                              LOL, isnt that called the Daewoo K1??
                              The K1 was a DI system. Maybe you're thinking of the K2?

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