AR Terminology Help Needed

[slaaw]

In shopping for complete uppers, I see terms that I cannot determine the meanings to, such as:

1. post-ban vs. pre-ban: Can I buy either one now and what is the difference?

2. H2, H3, H4, etc.?

3. A1, A2?

4. CAR, tactical, etc. (I understand the varminter one)

Thanks in advance.

[Olav]

In shopping for complete uppers, I see terms that I cannot determine the meanings to, such as:

1. post-ban vs. pre-ban: Can I buy either one now and what is the difference?
Google
2. H2, H3, H4, etc.?
Google
3. A1, A2?
Google
4. CAR, tactical, etc. (I understand the varminter one)
Google
Thanks in advance.

Your welcome!

[5968]

Welcome to the forum and to answer your question: YES
Check this thread out: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ad.php?t=56818

[slaaw]

Wow! Why do we need this forum when there's Google? I'm sure that's what you tell your students as well.

Your welcome!

[Olav]

Wow! Why do we need this forum when there's Google? I'm sure that's what you tell your students as well.

Well, the problem is these questions have been answered many, many times and if you spend about one hour of your time to figure it out yourself you'll get all the answers.

As for my students, I try to teach them self reliance and if they tried and failed then I throw them a bone.

[aplinker]

In shopping for complete uppers, I see terms that I cannot determine the meanings to, such as:

1. post-ban vs. pre-ban: Can I buy either one now and what is the difference?
Depends on the ban, but generally this refers to compliance with the now-defunct federal AWB that was in effect from 1994-2004. During that time pre-ban could have threaded muzzles and bayonet lugs, but post-ban could not. In some locales this ban remains in effect (not here), so the terminology has persisted. We have a different ban, so these terms are essentially useless with respect to CA law.
2. H2, H3, H4, etc.?
Those are buffer weights for carbines. A well-used carbine will sometimes open its gas port and need a heavier buffer to function properly. Different ammo also needs different buffer weights. This is generally for the shortest carbines, though - like the 10.5"
3. A1, A2?
generations of the M16 - but they're often not followed properly. These are generally applied to things like the upper (A2 being a fixed carry handle, A3 or A4 a flat-top) and the stock (A2 being a larger fixed than the M16 stock)

4. CAR, tactical, etc. (I understand the varminter one)
randomly applied terms. CAR means carbine, generally a carbine gas system with a carbine (collapsible) stock.
Thanks in advance.

red

[fusionstar]

Sorry to thread jack but what is a kiss build? Just standard m16 style no features correct? Standard handgaurd, a2 butt stock, flash hider carry handle?

[5968]

Sorry to thread jack but what is a kiss build? Just standard m16 style no features correct? Standard handgaurd, a2 butt stock, flash hider carry handle?

Just means "keep it super simple".

[slaaw]

red, thanks for the excellent explanation. Great info on your link as well.

[jandmtv]

Just means "keep it super simple".

I think it means "keep it simple stupid"

But you can interpret it any way you want

[fairfaxjim]

Well, the problem is these questions have been answered many, many times and if you spend about one hour of your time to figure it out yourself you'll get all the answers.

As for my students, I try to teach them self reliance and if they tried and failed then I throw them a bone.

Please keep your bones for your students. Most of us are here to help each other, not toss bones about.

If I don't have anything constructive to add, I usually TRY to keep quiet. You can see that you have prompted me to break that rule.

If you play with matches long enough, you will find out that you can burn yourself. I'm just glad I had teachers that shared their knowledge AND taught self reliance.

You're welcome.

[Gator Monroe]

I'm on the verge of a $500.00 AR build ($150.00 for Lower including shipping,tax,FFL's fee & Dros is my starting point !) How would you procede from there if you were building a $500.00 AR ? (Used A1 & other milsurp parts ok)

[The Cable Guy]

I'm on the verge of a $500.00 AR build ($150.00 for Lower including shipping,tax,FFL's fee & Dros is my starting point !) How would you procede from there if you were building a $500.00 AR ? (Used A1 & other milsurp parts ok)

Impossible I think. Say your lower is accounted for.
you have $350 left.

Say you find a SUPER deal on a complete LPK for $50

$300 left. You still need a stock, an upper and mags before you get the gun operational.

I've never in my life seen an upper for under $495

[ohsmily]

Your welcome!

That was almost the most awesome post of the day, but then you screwed it up with bad grammar...YOU'RE WELCOME.....

still, a very good post.....hilarious.

[Gator Monroe]

Used Complete A1 uppers are $150.00 -$250.00 (Including Bolt,Barrel,Charging handle,Triangle HG's, Buttstock...) and there are A2 kits with everyting (Minus Lower $400.00 to $450.00 so Group Buy price could put those into the budget ?) Help me out here (And my $500.00 price is without Mag or Mags sorry forgot that part /and no BB either)