Question about the legality of a USSR SVD Dragunov in California

[Heretodaygonetomorrow]

You have the Seller's address, right?

You could use the address to find a local gun store, contact the gun store and hire the gun store as your middleman. Send the payment instrument in the Seller's Name to the gun store. Instruct the Seller to go the gun store to have the gun inspected, afterwhich he will be paid if the gun checks out. Pay the gun store to inspect the gun and verify it, then instruct the gun store to give the payment to the Seller, and ship the gun to the FFL that you are using to receive the gun and do the DROS.

This way you get an inspection, before you lose control of the payment, and you get a legal and relatively safe transport of the gun into the State.

Just having an address is not proof that the guy is legit. A very common scam is to use a "Cut-Out" someone to receive the money or merchandise from the Scam Vistim, who is supposed to be getting paid to forward the money or merchandise to another address (either another "Cut-out" or out of the Country).

[Merc1138]

Yup and it is armslist. I told him to do that, to take a photo of the gun with his name next to it and he didn't want to do it or started b&$#ching that he wasted his time blah blah blah, etc. Anyway, seems like too good to be true.

How will a guy like this pull it off if he is a fraud? He gave me an address where to send the money order to and on top of that he told me to give him the tracking number.

He'll pull it off, because someone will eventually bite.

You know all those spam emails about winning some foreign lottery, having a package held overseas, nigerian prince smuggling money to the US, etc? Scammers still use those because they work. They don't have to work often to justify the little effort to find suckers, but they work often enough. Even though it's 2014, people STILL fall for that crap.

The address where he told you to send the money order may very well be some random place where he has access to the mailbox. Foreclosed home with no residents, vacant office/warehouse, etc. People have been doing that for decades to con money out of people, or as a place to ship items purchased with stolen credit cards and such.

If he's not willing to play ball sending a picture with a note next to the rifle, something that takes literally less than a minute to do(write the note, take the picture, and then attach it to an email), he doesn't want to sell. Even if he doesn't "understand computers", to make a $3500 sale he wouldn't have a problem with finding someone willing to help him out for a couple of minutes.

[lythanhman]

Tigers need some work to be similar. You can replace the stock handguards adjustable gas tube, slap on a flash hider and sling and you got the trqk thing. Cost me a pretty penny to collect the parts. The big kicker is going to be the barrel length. Tigr barrels are 4 inches shorter, but they're long enough as is so I appreciate the shorter barrel. Oh and good luck finding the bipod. Its like 500 if you do.

Is there functional different between Tiger and SVD?? SVD more accurate due to the longer barrel?? I owned this one for 20 years and don't know much about it. It was imported 1000 but banned after i got this one.

Thanks for sharing any info.

[ElvenSoul]

For the amount of money involved

I would travel to it and ppt

[LCU1670]

I would sure like one, a REAL one!

[Jayruta]

Lythanhman... Ty for the pictures!! I just had a moment drooling over your gun. Beautiful rifle!

[dvs762]

The California Armory TIGER is just a SVD with a few inches of barrel less than a standard SVD rifle and a non adjustable gas system..other than that pretty much same thing. I have had one since 99 and it shoots just as well as friends NDM86 rifles with the longer barrels.

[flak88mm]

Is there functional different between Tiger and SVD?? SVD more accurate due to the longer barrel?? I owned this one for 20 years and don't know much about it. It was imported 1000 but banned after i got this one.

Thanks for sharing any info.

Wow that is Beautiful man. Are you selling it? How much did you buy it for? Damn I wished I owned a business and not a pay check to pay check job.

[lythanhman]

Wow that is Beautiful man. Are you selling it? How much did you buy it for? Damn I wished I owned a business and not a pay check to pay check job.

I paid $2100 in 1995 and not selling it now, but some day if the price is right.

[lythanhman]

You have the Seller's address, right?

You could use the address to find a local gun store, contact the gun store and hire the gun store as your middleman. Send the payment instrument in the Seller's Name to the gun store. Instruct the Seller to go the gun store to have the gun inspected, afterwhich he will be paid if the gun checks out. Pay the gun store to inspect the gun and verify it, then instruct the gun store to give the payment to the Seller, and ship the gun to the FFL that you are using to receive the gun and do the DROS.

This way you get an inspection, before you lose control of the payment, and you get a legal and relatively safe transport of the gun into the State.

Just having an address is not proof that the guy is legit. A very common scam is to use a "Cut-Out" someone to receive the money or merchandise from the Scam Vistim, who is supposed to be getting paid to forward the money or merchandise to another address (either another "Cut-out" or out of the Country).

Very good advice. Thank you.

[Mot Mi]

Dude, after reading your post about an SVD for 4000 something I'd think youbwouild know it's a fraud. You're about to drop some heavy money so please be careful. Don't be like that other cg member who got scammed from a European ad for a colt. I didn't understand why that member just didn't have his LGS order one for him or find a reputable retailer. I understand the SVD is of rarity but take some precaution dropping that type of serious money. Moral of the story, people get scammed everyday. Don't be a sucker and like the other cger said, book a flight and see it in person. If I was purchasing something of that amount you damn well know that I will be there in person to check it out.

BTW, that is a beautiful tigr. I own a vepr tactical model with 23 inch barrel. Been waiting for ironwood to release the SVD style stock and handguard so I can switch it up to make it look like an SVD.

[Click Boom]

Wow that is Beautiful man. Are you selling it? How much did you buy it for? Damn I wished I owned a business and not a pay check to pay check job.

Get inheritance check, buy dragunovs, charge people money to shoot dragunovs = business. Bam youre welcome.

[Click Boom]

Where is the seller at?

[flak88mm]

Seller is supposedly in illinois. It's a scam. probably the typical Nigerian bull. The guy too sounded like he was from Africa.

[flak88mm]

Hi all , resurrecting this thread let's say I wanted to import a california dragunov into ca is it legal if the seller removes the thumbstock and seller ships it like that to my ffl dealer and then also ship the butt stock as a separate part? Just trying to find ways of not having to install bullet button since I plan to do that myself so i don't have to hire a middle man