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  • TheShooter73
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 9

    SKS AK mag?

    Ok, so a friend of mine has an SKS that I've fired before and let me tell you, it's a real fun gun to shoot for a gun with no "evil" features. One day, he asked me if it's possible to convert it to take AK mags, which is something I was thinking of doing once I plan on getting my own SKS. After looking it up, I found out it is possible, but it's a ***** to do. I won't have the time due to college and work and I know my friend won't have the time either.

    Does anyone know anybody in the Orange County or nearby that'll do a conversion?
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    TheShooter73
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 9

    Sorry, meant to write Orange County area.

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    • #3
      SoberClurichaun
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2013
      • 1437

      No because it's illegal.
      "The tyrant will always find a pretext for his tyranny."
      -Aesop's Fables The Wolf and the Lamb.

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      • #4
        kcheung2
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 4387

        Not legal in CA, and even if it were, those duckbill mags don't work very well.
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        • #5
          Junkie
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 4848

          Whether or not it's illegal depends on what kind of "SKS" it is. If it's a Yugo M59 or M59/66, it's legal to convert. If it's anything that says SKS on it, it's illegal. This is the same concept as off-list AR15s being legal. It's less common, but exactly the same concept.

          I have an M59/66 that I've considered playing around with, but haven't gotten around to it. I'd also like to toss some better sights on it.
          Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
          A real live woman is more expensive than a fleshlight. Which would you rather have?

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          • #6
            TheSpaceNeedle
            Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 108

            So you want to remove the ten round mag and convert it to what? Use ten round ak mags?

            Just buy some stripper clips and forget about it. Sks's that take ak mags have been a no no out here for awhile.

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            • #7
              5.56Geo
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 1888

              You will be better served in buying an AK. The cost involved in converting an SKS to have the capabilities of using AK magazines (not duckbill magazines) will cost more than an AK costs and there is no guarantee it will be as reliable.

              ...that not even getting into the legal aspects of it.
              Live free or die trying!

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              • #8
                Chaos47
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2010
                • 6615

                Originally posted by TheShooter73
                Ok, so a friend of mine has an SKS that I've fired before and let me tell you, it's a real fun gun to shoot for a gun with no "evil" features. One day, he asked me if it's possible to convert it to take AK mags, which is something I was thinking of doing once I plan on getting my own SKS. After looking it up, I found out it is possible, but it's a ***** to do. I won't have the time due to college and work and I know my friend won't have the time either.

                Does anyone know anybody in the Orange County or nearby that'll do a conversion?
                Sorry your understanding of why a SKS is legal in CA is flawed.
                SKS have fixed magazines. They are legal the same way as "BB" rifles are.. by having a fixed magazine with the capacity to hold 10 or fewer rounds.
                Not by being a featureless rifle, because a featureless rifle must have a detachable magazine.


                30515. (a) Notwithstanding Section 30510, "assault weapon" also
                means any of the following:
                (1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to
                accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
                (A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action
                of the weapon.
                (B) A thumbhole stock.
                (C) A folding or telescoping stock.
                (D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
                (E) A flash suppressor.
                (F) A forward pistol grip.
                (2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine
                with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
                Also under the CA AWB "SKS with detachable magazine" is a listed assault weapon so if its a marked model its no go...

                3rd even if it was legal its probably cheaper to just go with detachable duckbill magazines...

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                • #9
                  Mitch
                  Mostly Harmless
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 6574

                  Originally posted by Junkie
                  Whether or not it's illegal depends on what kind of "SKS" it is. If it's a Yugo M59 or M59/66, it's legal to convert.
                  Yeah, every time this comes up the old "Yugo M59 isn't an SKS" canard pops up, but in ten years I have yet to see someone post a photo of a converted Yugo M59 in California on Calguns. And not because I haven't asked.
                  Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                  Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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                  • #10
                    Mossy Man
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 7641

                    Originally posted by Mitch
                    Yeah, every time this comes up the old "Yugo M59 isn't an SKS" canard pops up, but in ten years I have yet to see someone post a photo of a converted Yugo M59 in California on Calguns. And not because I haven't asked.
                    Its a logically sound evaluation.

                    The only problem is that its not a large enough demographic to gain widespread support and acceptance.

                    When BBs and OOLs first came out, it was the same, except there was a better reason to push for its acceptance.

                    How many M59s are out there, and of those who's willing to test the law on a weak upgrade?

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                    • #11
                      Junkie
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 4848

                      Originally posted by Mitch
                      Yeah, every time this comes up the old "Yugo M59 isn't an SKS" canard pops up, but in ten years I have yet to see someone post a photo of a converted Yugo M59 in California on Calguns. And not because I haven't asked.
                      Being a test case sucks even if you're found not guilty - or even if you aren't charged. Many cops will arrest first and then figure it out.
                      Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                      A real live woman is more expensive than a fleshlight. Which would you rather have?

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                      • #12
                        calwoodbutcher
                        Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 260

                        M59/66 has a gas shut off lever to make it a single shot and has no features. If one was to install a choat mount and a nice scope, stripper clip loading would not work. They sell 5 and 10 round duckbills that would fit the bill (pun intended) and do feed well. These rifles are fairly accurate at scope distances. Legal issue is untested though.
                        An Armed Society is a Polite Society!

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                        • #13
                          ArmedCMT
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 2036

                          Is a Norinco type 56 carbine not considered an SKS?

                          Ive been looking for a fixed 5rd mag but Im pretty sure the one I just got is a detachable. Im glad I got it cheap cuz it looks pretty flimsy...oh well, the hunt continues.

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                          • #14
                            Mitch
                            Mostly Harmless
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 6574

                            Originally posted by Junkie
                            Being a test case sucks even if you're found not guilty - or even if you aren't charged. Many cops will arrest first and then figure it out.
                            Then it's probably not such a great idea to keep spreading the dubious notion that a Zastava 59/66 isn't an SKS.

                            It probably said "SKS" on the tag in the gun store; it probably said "SKS" on your receipt; heck, the gun store guy probably wrote "SKS" on the 4473. When Turners was selling these a few years ago they called them "SKS" in their weekly ads. That's all the DA would need to do, wave around a copy of a Turner's ad in front of the jury. Or show them a Zastava 59/66 side by side with a Russian SKS, then field strip them both. Most of the parts would be interchangeable.

                            Same for the Norinco 56.

                            What expert are you going to find to convincingly testify it's not an SKS at your trial?

                            Just to fit the rifle with a less reliable magazine set-up? What's the point of that?
                            Last edited by Mitch; 08-21-2014, 11:51 AM.
                            Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                            Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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                            • #15
                              Mossy Man
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 7641

                              Originally posted by Mitch
                              Then it's probably not such a great idea to keep spreading the dubious notion that a Zastava 59/66 isn't an SKS.

                              It probably said "SKS" on the tag in the gun store; it probably said "SKS" on your receipt; heck, the gun store guy probably wrote "SKS" on the 4473. When Turners was selling these a few years ago they called them "SKS" in their weekly ads. That's all the DA would need to do, wave around a copy of a Turner's ad in front of the jury. Or show them a Zastava 59/66 side by side with a Russian SKS, then field strip them both. Most of the parts would be interchangeable.

                              Same for the Norinco 56.

                              What expert are you going to find to convincingly testify it's not an SKS at your trial?

                              Just to fit the rifle with a less reliable magazine set-up? What's the point of that?
                              I'm not disagreeing with you that its not worth the possible hassle for an inferior set up, but by your logic you could say the same thing for any generic legal AR15.

                              Take any off the shelf AR15, take it apart and compare it to a listed AR15 you can see they're the same. Might even say AR15 somewhere on the 4473, and the tag will probably say AR15 on it somewhere too.

                              The only difference is that someone took a chance with an OLL, and a bunch of other people did too, and set a precedent of tacit approval by LEO.

                              Nobody has done that with the M59, and probably never will because so few of them exist vs. generic AR15s.

                              If someone made a new production SKS called an ESKAYESSZ, it could legally be sold featureless with a detachable magazine. It just won't happen because there is no demand for it.
                              Last edited by Mossy Man; 08-21-2014, 12:17 PM.

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