A question about .308 Semi-autos reliability

[dc2allday]

LRB m14sa?

[TZL]

Scar17 runs like a champ and will make groups the PTR and FAL can only dream of....light for a 308 semi to boot !

Ptrs are good but weight, recoil and accuracy are the drawbacks

PTR is 2-3 MOA. And roller delay blowback is pretty stiff

Only true PSG1 is MOA, and that's like 16 lbs

I've never seen a FAL below two MOA, recoil a little softer than a PTR/g3 but far from a SCAR

[Ronin2]

I have both a FN FAL and an HK91 and have NEVER had any kind of stoppage of any kind!

[73Jim]

DPMS 308AR here without any issues. About a year old and 500 round, so still new. But I assume, like most machinery, 90% of the problems happen in the first or last 10% of its lifespan.

[mt417]

No probs with my Springfield M1A or LaRue tOBR, shooting M118LR or Federal SMK/Hornady OTM.

[russ69]

I have two M1As. My heavy barreled SuperMatch is my most used rifle because I competed with it for many years. Never once had any issues. I keep it maintained and only shoot my own match loads, it runs 100% for the last 30 plus years. I only have a few rounds through my new loaded model but so far I'm having no problems.

[-hanko]

I have both a FN FAL and an HK91 and have NEVER had any kind of stoppage of any kind!

I have double-digit FAL's...since they were designed as battle rifles from the gitgo they do tend to eat anything and not burp.

Overall average accuracy is around 2-3 moa, a bit better with a SUIT or other glass installed. Definitely good for minute-of-human.

As to M1A's aka semi-auto M14 clones...unless you can buy an older Springfield which uses USGI parts, I think you're FAR better off with a Norinco or Polytech, or an LRB if you can afford the tariff.

Without the lifetime warranty, Springfield would have been bankrupt years ago.

NO reason I can see for oem extractors breaking in a battle rifle. Problem now is that since Springfield is out of USGI parts now, only God knows from where they source the parts, and the issue is reflected in warranty claims.

[imarangemaster]

I had an Argentine FAL in the 90s and loved it. It ate anything, and was about 2 MOA. I had a Springfield Armory NM with a Match barrel and an ART-IV scope. Even at that, the best it did was about 2 MOA. Unlike the G3 mags I had from selling, I never had a stock of FAL or M1A mags to speak of. So when It came to FAL or PTR91, it was an easy choice. At $1100, it was WELL below M1A, AR10, or FAL prices. Plus.....it was readily available.

The PTR should at least do 2MOA if not a little better. The Redfield Revenge scopes are under appreciated. I have the 3x9 "Dial N Shoot" with BDC.

[kotton]

I must score a PTR91. Yes, it is my lot in life.

Mines about ready to go up for sale. I can give you the 9er fan discount.

[NHP1127]

Reliable AR 10 Style? LMT MWS

[tjg]

I have a few .308's. The ones I didn't mess with (changed the barrel on one, changed the BCG on another) ran fine. I messed up the ones I modified at first but now they run great.

My SCAR has been very reliable. ~1500 shots, no problems, and very accurate.

[JMP]

Show me a DI AR-15 (5.56 NATO), and I'll show you a semiautomatic rifle in .308 Winchester that is at least as reliable. AR-15s are friggin jamming machines.

[Arnelcheeze]

What kind of BCG were you running?

its a chrome DPMS BCG

[Dhena81]

Show me a DI AR-15 (5.56 NATO), and I'll show you a semiautomatic rifle in .308 Winchester that is at least as reliable. AR-15s are friggin jamming machines.

LOL @ the

You probably have no knowledge of the AR-15 to begin with your opinion is worth what was payed.


The HK G3 are considered some of the most reliable rifles ever produced. Sure you can't speed reload like your being featured in a Magpul video but you don't need to. Recoil impulse is subjective and overstated IMO maybe some people need to get out and shoot one for themselves before they regurgitate internet beta banter or check their roller gap.

I've been wanting to get a MWS for some time and the reviews I've read have all been favorable. It's one of only a few AR10/LR308 platforms I know of that has been subjected to military testing and fielding.

Then there's the Scar 17 there's really nothing to say about it other than its been my pleasure to own and shoot one. Those damn Belgium's made a fine rifle that has been thoroughly revised and field tested in some harsh conditions by some bad @$$ MF'ers.

[beardog308]

I've had three FTE with my PTR. All on the same day using PMC. Three out of a hundred rounds that day. That was sometime last week. Round count is around 1000 and the rifle was clean. No problems yesterday with the same ammo. Still, my favorite in the safe.