faster reloads, ar15?

[drifts1]

BB and speed do not go together. No matter how much you practice, featureless wins every time.

[Rider1k]

Ubbt is the best way to use a BB rifle in IMO.

[CGT80]

Ubbt is the best way to use a BB rifle in IMO.

To make it even easier to use the ubbt, when shooting right handed, add on a ubml to make it ambidextrous. http://www.thordsencustoms.com/shop/...D-RELEASES.htm

It was much easier to use the ubbt when I could see the hole to stick the pin into, while the rifle was still near a firing position. I have gone featureless now, so I put a machine screw in the ambi release and I just tap that with my left thumb. I prefer that to the standard mag release or unlocked rad lock that I can use.

TC also has a ubmr, which is the ambi release with a button added so you can release it with your finger, on a featureless rifle.

[ocabj]

Bullet Button will work fine in High Power Rifle competitions, simply because the course of fire allows for the operation of a bullet button without being a detriment to timed fire (magazine change happens while in sitting or in prone). But if you're shooting something like 3-gun, I can't imagine a magazine change will be fast or efficient.

[TomReloaded]

Is it actually a competition issue?

In CA, wouldnt everyone be running 10rd mags with bullet buttons? Id like to get into more competitive shooting and just always figured that the playing field would be leveled with everyone at the same capacity and BB configuration.

If thats what people are running, and you show up with 30rd mags and no BB, it seems like poor sportsmanship.

[starsnuffer]

Is it actually a competition issue?

In CA, wouldnt everyone be running 10rd mags with bullet buttons? Id like to get into more competitive shooting and just always figured that the playing field would be leveled with everyone at the same capacity and BB configuration.

If thats what people are running, and you show up with 30rd mags and no BB, it seems like poor sportsmanship.

No, everyone is running featureless and 30rd mags that they say they've owned since before the ban.

-W

[highpower790]

Users of bbs in competition suffer no competitive disadvantage.

[AreWeFree]

Users of bbs in competition suffer no competitive disadvantage.

Do they get a handicap, I mean besides the BB?

[hossb7]

Is it actually a competition issue?

In CA, wouldnt everyone be running 10rd mags with bullet buttons? Id like to get into more competitive shooting and just always figured that the playing field would be leveled with everyone at the same capacity and BB configuration.

If thats what people are running, and you show up with 30rd mags and no BB, it seems like poor sportsmanship.

Is the point of competing to win?

In your scenario with level playing fields and same capacity would everyone be a winner, too? participation trophies?

I dont get it? if you have an advantage that's not breaking the law or competition rules, how is it poor sportsmanship?

[ocabj]

Is it actually a competition issue?

In CA, wouldnt everyone be running 10rd mags with bullet buttons? Id like to get into more competitive shooting and just always figured that the playing field would be leveled with everyone at the same capacity and BB configuration.

If thats what people are running, and you show up with 30rd mags and no BB, it seems like poor sportsmanship.

You should get into High Power Service Rifle "Across the Course". Everyone is basically shooting the exact same rifle.

[GasTiresOil]

I ordered the magpul ranger plate with the ultimate bullet button already installed from thordsen customs yesterday. Seems like the most convenient option to me. But then again what do I know my first ar is still in lockup.

[highpower790]

Do they get a handicap, I mean besides the BB?

All are equal in highpower.

[CGT80]

Is the point of competing to win?

In your scenario with level playing fields and same capacity would everyone be a winner, too? participation trophies?

I dont get it? if you have an advantage that's not breaking the law or competition rules, how is it poor sportsmanship?

I think the person you responded to doesn't realize there are different divisions of equipment for competition. If the rules allow it, then it is not poor sportsmanship, but putting 10 round mags and BB's up against unrestricted rifles is not even close to a fair match. California law dictates who can use what type of rifle, unless you just break the laws.

At the 3 gun matches I shoot, most people have standard cap mags and no BB's. A lot of people must own RAW's. I am running featureless, so no BB, but I do use 10 round mags. I shoot in Kalifornia Kompliant division. We can setup our rifle the way we want (optics, barrels, comps, controls, etc.) but the rifle has to be featureless or have a bullet button. I don't think featureless and BB rifles belong in the same category. BB just can not compete, hence my decision to get rid of the pistol grip and be able to easily drop mags.

The pistol competitions have divisions for different guns as well. Open= red dots and comps, plus anything goes for mag size and mods. Limited can't have optics or comps, but can have most other upgrades. L10 is the same but with 10 round mags. Single stack is for the 1911 guys that like the 45 acp.

In auto racing you will see similar divisions. A 4 cylinder car with unlimited engine mods just can't compete with an 8 cylinder with unlimited mods, in an all out race for speed. There are probably exceptions, like maybe in bracket racing, I am not a sports spectator so my knowledge is limited.

Most of the competitions I have shot will have at least a few different divisions to better match equipment and allow the actually shooters' skills to play a big role in who wins.

Those of you who are interested in the competitions should just get out there and see how it works. Most people are quite friendly and will fill you in on what they are using and why. Run whatever gun you have and then decide what mods will work for the division or competition you will do. Even if you don't have equal equipment to be truly competitive, you can still learn a great deal and have a ton of fun. I shot a match called LESA, which is 3 gun but they don't have a KK division. My mags are a lot smaller than most, but I still give some of the guys a run for their money. It forces me to really work hard to try and keep up with them.

The other 3 gun match I do, does have KK, but there were only 3 of us for the all rifle match this month. I won that division, but the other two could have used BB's for all I know. If that is the case, I can't really brag because they were at a big disadvantage. Sometimes there are not enough shooters to have as many divisions as what is possible.

[89LT1]

i was thinking about faster reloads while being ca compliant when i started working on these:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=936423