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  • #16
    MmmSti
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 527

    My CHF barrel on my colt has been very accurate and reliable. Same with my CHF Barrel on my spikes upper.

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    • #17
      jeffrice6
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2006
      • 5158

      CHF is only good for the manufacturer. Once the outlying of cash has been spent for the machinery, they can churn out barrels cheaper and on top of that charge a premium.......
      WTB: S&W 617 4" 10 shot Pre-Lock

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      • #18
        RotaryRevn
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 1079

        Lighter, stronger, last 3x as long

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        • #19
          joe_gman
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 1225

          Originally posted by Dhena81
          So since you have barrel that's CHF and your happy about it now it defies logic?



          Wrong



          So Colt is making CHF barrels now? Do you live in Canada?

          Um, unless someone has been living under a rock, FN makes the barrels for the M4A1 for the US military. Colt blew the M4A1 deal in the US, when they threatened to sue after losing the initial bid contract to Remington.
          Religion & Govt. will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together. James Madison

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          • #20
            JWHuey
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 2300

            Cuz if you have a CHFBCM+NIBBCG you are super cool & will shoot better than everyone else, for 10x as long with zero malfunctions ever, & will never have to clean your rifle as long as you own it, & did I mention how cool you are? & blah blah blah....

            Gluten free diets are cool too....
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            • #21
              MauserMike
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 684

              i thought the cold hammer forging made it so you are ready for combat! at least thats what Daniel Defense wants you to think
              Slapping an upper onto a lower is not "building" an AR-15.

              What part of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" do you illiterate pawns not understand!?

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              • #22
                Jimi Jah
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2014
                • 17911

                Seems the real benefit of CHF would be in unlined barrels. That way accuracy is improved without the chrome lining degrading that.

                I have 1/9 twist non chromed barrels and those are very accurate. If I could buy CHF non-lined barrels I would.

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                • #23
                  Dhena81
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 4587

                  Originally posted by joe_gman
                  Um, unless someone has been living under a rock, FN makes the barrels for the M4A1 for the US military. Colt blew the M4A1 deal in the US, when they threatened to sue after losing the initial bid contract to Remington.
                  Ya I must have been living under a rock because I really don't follow the news on what manufacture is making the exact same rifle for the Army.

                  The TDP calls for a button rifled barrel that's what FHN produces for the Army because its part of the contract. Even the new FN AR-15's are button broached rifled barrels look it up if you don't believe me.

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                  • #24
                    desert dog
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2008
                    • 786

                    There are excellent and poor quality barrels produced with both processes.

                    The most accurate and inaccurate rifles I have ever shot were button rifled. Button rifling really stresses the steel so is considered a weaker barrel if the stress relieving process isn't 100% perfect. Cut-rifling is stronger but no more accurate in a well made barrel. I prefer cut-rifling in my precision rifle barrels because I get to choose my twist rate.

                    FN and Sako make the finest CHF barrels in the world, so you can't go wrong with them. They are extremely light-weight and low profile, but very rigid. Great choice for a combat firearm that needs to last with years of abuse. The Izhmash CHF barrels on AKs are legendary for their durability. As mentioned by others, the start-up costs to produce high quality CHF barrels is huge, so most smaller companies do not have access to this process. And CHF barrels can be very accurate too; look at the Sako TRG or the FN SPR that guarantees .5 MOA accuracy and has a chrome lined barrel!

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                    • #25
                      ScottsBad
                      Progressives Suck!
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • May 2009
                      • 5610

                      Originally posted by Dhena81
                      OP CHF tooling is a huge investment and was designed to make manufacturing barrels cheaper and quicker. It's not more accurate than cut rifling though a good CHF barrel will be very accurate. Other than FHN or Steyr I can't think of anyone that makes a precision rifle that doesn't have cut rifling.
                      ^Yes. I was reading this thread thinking, "Wow there is a lot of disinformation in this thread.", until I read this post.

                      That's why some of the popular precision barrels are stainless too. Stainless is a little softer and is easier to cut the type of rifling desired into it. IIRC.

                      Dhena81, your other points were correct as well.

                      I like HF barrels because they are considered to hold up better than standard barrels. But truth is that standard chrome lined button rifled barrels will last plenty long for most people. JMHO
                      sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.

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                      • #26
                        ScottsBad
                        Progressives Suck!
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • May 2009
                        • 5610

                        Originally posted by desert dog

                        FN and Sako make the finest CHF barrels in the world, so you can't go wrong with them. They are extremely light-weight and low profile, but very rigid. Great choice for a combat firearm that needs to last with years of abuse. The Izhmash CHF barrels on AKs are legendary for their durability. As mentioned by others, the start-up costs to produce high quality CHF barrels is huge, so most smaller companies do not have access to this process. And CHF barrels can be very accurate too; look at the Sako TRG or the FN SPR that guarantees .5 MOA accuracy and has a chrome lined barrel!
                        I don't think you should leave out Daniel Defense. They are making some pretty good CHF barrels too.
                        sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.

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                        • #27
                          maxima
                          Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 418

                          Because, IIRC, all factory Ruger 10/22 rifles come with hammer forged barrel since around 2009.

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