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  • ts
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    • Apr 2006
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    AK-47 .22 Legal?

    Are AK-47 with a 22 conversion legal in California?
  • #2
    ohsmily
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2005
    • 8931

    Yes....legal. Also, don't be confused by the Armscor AK-22 which has nothing to do with the AK other than cosmetics. It isn't an AK conversion at all. Just a crappy .22 made in the shape of an AK. If you get one, get the one that is built on an actual AK receiver that has been converted over to a .22.
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    • #3
      6172crew
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      • Oct 2005
      • 6240

      SJGE had them in stock (the good ones). The supplier wont send to just any FFL, the FFL mhas to hold a AW permoit for some reason....
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      • #4
        sintax
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2005
        • 916

        Originally posted by 6172crew
        SJGE had them in stock (the good ones). The supplier wont send to just any FFL, the FFL mhas to hold a AW permoit for some reason....
        now which ones are "the good ones"

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        • #5
          Beatone
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          • Dec 2005
          • 4052

          There's two Romanian trainers out there. SJGE had the Draganov style.The Draganov has ten rds in a short mag. There is also one with a solid stock with black furniture. The mags for it are ten rds but have the size of a regular AK 30 rd mag. Mags between the two are not nterchangeable. Still very cool.
          Last edited by Beatone; 05-22-2006, 11:12 AM.
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          • #6
            69Mach1
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            • Jan 2006
            • 15032

            Originally posted by tonyayo
            Are AK-47 with a 22 conversion legal in California?
            Are you referring to the WASR22 22lr rifle built on an actual Romanian AK receiver and marked "22lr", or are you talking about one of the 22 conversion kits to install on a Centerfire AK47?

            Like this:


            Installation of the 22 kit on an actual AK47 with pistol grip and with the detachable magazine is a grey area I think. I would personally not go that route.
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            • #7
              69Mach1
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              • Jan 2006
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              Originally posted by Beatone
              There's two Romanian trainers out there. SJGE had the Draganov style.The Draganov has ten rds in a short mag. There is also one with a solid stock with black furniture. The mags for it are ten rds but have the size of a regular AK 20 rd mag. Mags between the two are not nterchangeable. Still very cool.

              Actually three. The Draganov style stock, a regular buttstock/pistol grip version, and an RPK long barrel with reg. buttstock and pistol grip.

              How do you know that the simulated 30 rd (not 20 rd) magazines do not work with the Draganov style rifle. Just curious.
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              • #8
                VeryCoolCat
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2006
                • 11275

                There are two main TRUE AKs in .22

                The Romanian AK Training Rifle, comes with a pistol grip and the traditional ak look in black with a pistol grip.

                The WASR-22 comes with the traditional wood look furniture in a dragunov style stock.

                Both are Romanian and both can be switched to different stocks.

                There are Knockoff AKs, like the Armscorp/Armscor models that are regular .22s designed to look like AKs but look like crap.

                Armi-Jager/Mitchel Arms makes an AK too, looks much better than the armscorp but its quite expensive, they have a newer model that looks MUCH MORE like an ak than any of their previous models.... but it is not truely an AK and is quite expensive.

                JGSALES has the WASR-22 in dragunov stock but WILL NOT ship to california, they said even though it may be legal, they don't want the hassle of dealing with california law. I would buy one.
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                The volume of blood necessary to achieve erection would cause you to either pass out or if you didn't and managed to maintain an erection you would likely die from lack of oxygen to the heart and brain.
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                Just be glad you are not his next door neighbor. I am sure there are "good tunes" flowing out the window. I am imagining a cop car pulling up at 1:30 AM asking "Are you having a party?" and Bundo sayin "Nope just me and the BG's"

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                • #9
                  Beatone
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                  • Dec 2005
                  • 4052

                  You are correct on the RPK. I don't think it looks as good as the other two though.
                  The Draganov and the other 22 are not conversions but dedicated 22 rifles. I was able to check both of them out and the 30rd simulated 22 mag and the ten rd mag and they don't interchange.
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                  • #10
                    Beatone
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 4052

                    Armscorp AK 22 looks bad and sound like they are not worth the money.
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                    • #11
                      69Mach1
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                      • Jan 2006
                      • 15032

                      Originally posted by Beatone
                      You are correct on the RPK. I don't think it looks as good as the other two though.
                      The Draganov and the other 22 are not conversions but dedicated 22 rifles. I was able to check both of them out and the 30rd simulated 22 mag and the ten rd mag and they don't interchange.
                      That's too bad. Thanks.
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                      • #12

                        For some unknown and bizarre reason dedicated .22 conversions installed on off-list AR-15 rifles and AK-47 rifles have angered the DOJ greatly. Iggy and others have said on multiple occaisions that .22 conversions on off-list rifles are unlawful in their opinion.

                        State law however says these conversions are lawful. Hence tread carefully.

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                        • #13
                          VeryCoolCat
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                          • Feb 2006
                          • 11275

                          Heheheh, this is gonna be funny. We're going to have to start taking the pistol grips off AKs/ARs in .22.

                          Why on earth would anyone ban a .22, hell they have some pump action bbguns in .22 that are more powerful than 22lr.

                          I can't ever seeing the olympics coming to the US in California, all the guys bringing in their olympic shooting rifles get arrested and their rifles confiscated.
                          Originally posted by Kestryll
                          The volume of blood necessary to achieve erection would cause you to either pass out or if you didn't and managed to maintain an erection you would likely die from lack of oxygen to the heart and brain.
                          Originally posted by ivanimal
                          Just be glad you are not his next door neighbor. I am sure there are "good tunes" flowing out the window. I am imagining a cop car pulling up at 1:30 AM asking "Are you having a party?" and Bundo sayin "Nope just me and the BG's"

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                          • #14
                            ts
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 1232

                            I love AK's, I picked up an Armscor because it was cheap and fun, but I would love a real AK. Could someone tell me where I could pick up one of these in the LA area?

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                            • #15
                              aklover_91
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 809

                              I'm looking for one of the WASR .22's ,AKT-98, RPK Trainer, or any other dedicated .22 AK. Does anyone in the Bay Area carry them?

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