Let's see you KEYMOD setup!!!

[joea]

Awhile back I looked up "keymod" and one of the images was...
keymod.jpg
Lighter is cool.

[POWinCA]

The whole point of keymod is to keep things very simple and lightweight.

Accessories go exactly where you would put them on a quad rail.

[Gruber51]

Appears so for now. Provides a better solution to a slim handguard than a dozen different screw types for different brand handguards to attach rail sections to, and still better than having 4' of empty rail just to cover up.

That was the entire point of keymod, and yes.

Thanks for the info, been looking to piece together a Noveske upper.

Any mauling of paint on the rail if accessories are moved around?
Are mounted objects on Keymod as secure as picatiny rails in your opinion?
I have found myself getting completely away from forward grips, how does a naked Keymod rail feel on the hand?

Thanks.

[jonc]

Thanks for the info, been looking to piece together a Noveske upper.

Any mauling of paint on the rail if accessories are moved around?
Are mounted objects on Keymod as secure as picatiny rails in your opinion?
I have found myself getting completely away from forward grips, how does a naked Keymod rail feel on the hand?

Thanks.

I like a forward grip

Rail alone also feels good...

[Germz]

I don't understand the hype of keymod

[tonyxcom]

I don't understand the hype of keymod

It's actually pretty simple.

Slimmer and lighter rails are the hype for obvious reasons (slimmer and lighter for the slow people here). Look at all the slick sided rails to hit the market in the past several years and how many different screw bolt patterns and sizes were born out of this transition.

Keymod solves that problem the same way picatinny solved the problem of mounting accessories when we transitioned to accessory rails from handguards.

There is no compelling reason to "upgrade" to keymod. But if you were looking to replace one of your heavy picatinny rails with something slick sided, a keymod rail should be at the top of your list.

[desertrunner303]

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[Merc1138]

I don't understand the hype of keymod

Because rail sections and accessories for this:

http://rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=616

Might not be compatible with this:

http://www.jprifles.com/1.4.4_hg_mod.php

Which are also likely not compatible with this:

https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3113

Or this:

https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3677

Or this:

https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/browse&category=ar15forearmsystems_diamondheadusa

Or this:

https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3737

Or this:

https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3266

Is that clear enough now? There's simply no reason for manufacturers to not switch to a standardized accessory attachment system that doesn't require 3-5 feet of pic rail that will go unused or needs to be covered up with even more crap(nevermind the actual bulk of the rails themselves) compared to a slick forend that doesn't require going back to the manufacturer a year later to figure out what thread pitch they use for their screws or rig some hokey nut to the underside of the rail and hope everything lines up with your rail section in the spot you want.

Hell, it's the same reason USB became a standard for computers. Unless you really want to go back to the days of needing a serial port for your mouse, AT connector for the keyboard, parallel port for a cable with a centronics plug on the other end for the printer, a gameport adapter for a joystick, and who knows what other random connection standard for any other devices you might have.

The backlash(not sure if it's caused by ignorance, or just people "set in their ways" from a whole 5 years ago) over keymod is mindboggling. It's an open standard that doesn't cost manufacturers some goofy licensing fees to implement. You can attach your currently owned accessories with pic rail sections that are compatible with any manufacturer's keymod forend. You get a slick sided forend that doesn't require being covered in plastic rail covers(although people still do it anyway). Manufacturers don't have to design the forend around the pic rails being on the sides(I've never seen an 8 sided quad rail, not even sure it would be possible since you'd need to leave enough room between the rail sections for accessories to attach, it'd probably end up 4" wide).



You couldn't get a quad rail to be that slim(and no, that's not my rifle. You wouldn't catch me forking over the cash for an AI AX chassis. I think they're way overpriced). You wouldn't want a quad rail just to mount 1 or 2 items. Why would you want a manufacturer specific piece of rail to attach to some random slot pattern cut into the forend? As it is, that forend is barely adding anything to the outside diameter of the barrel while allowing versatile placement of accessories(WHICH AREN'T REQUIRED) using any manufacturers keymod accessories, or any manufacturers keymod attached rail section.

The lack of understanding of keymod, and the bitterness about it is just silly. Do people need to upgrade just for the sake of doing it? No. It's not really even an "upgrade" either. Is it worth considering if you wanted a free float handguard on a future build? Sure. If every manufacturer decides to make only keymod handguards going forward, it doesn't really affect anyones current build, and won't really have an affect going forward unless you're really desperate for a quad rail in the future. But since manufacturers are going to keep making quad rails for some time going forward, that's a non-issue.

[JackRydden224]

OK, I think I need a keymod setup now!

[jonc]

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[Javi]

I'm liking that with the keymods you can add the rail sections WITHOUT taking the handguard off. Just a nice feature that appeals to me. Plus the one I'm looking to get has the q.d. sockets on the rail without adding a section.

[Yerman]

MI SS GEN2 15"

Is that a 16" barrel?

Also, how is this a keymod? It doesn't have the "Keys"

[Dumas1012]

Yes, exactly. Except the Keytards are the tactifools now. They just don't realize it. Pretty sure if Noveske marketed a paper towel tube with velcro strips to attach accessories, more than half the people on here would be like "Yeah, I totally get it! It's so small that my tiny hands can wrap around it twice, and it's light weight and faster than a tacticool mall ninja operator Keymod that I want so badly to be but try so hard to disassociate with. Oh yeah, and you can buy rails to attach stuff to it! I just wish they made a 20" version."

Ok, I'm done thread crapping. Apologies

Silliest post. If you don't like the keymod style then fine, but thread capping with your nonsense is retarded. Keymod is not for everyone. I for one did not understand get the whole concept of keymods, but now it makes perfect sense. I don't plan to load up a load of crap on my rail, but if I wanted to then I have the option. The look also grew on me. I irk when I see people mounting 10"-15" quad rails on their ARs, but if that's the style that they like and want then good for them.

[Calplinker]

Keymod

Because rail sections and accessories for this:

http://rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=616

Might not be compatible with this:

http://www.jprifles.com/1.4.4_hg_mod.php

Which are also likely not compatible with this:

https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3113

Or this:

https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3677

Or this:

https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/browse&category=ar15forearmsystems_diamondheadusa

Or this:

https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3737

Or this:

https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3266

Is that clear enough now? There's simply no reason for manufacturers to not switch to a standardized accessory attachment system that doesn't require 3-5 feet of pic rail that will go unused or needs to be covered up with even more crap(nevermind the actual bulk of the rails themselves) compared to a slick forend that doesn't require going back to the manufacturer a year later to figure out what thread pitch they use for their screws or rig some hokey nut to the underside of the rail and hope everything lines up with your rail section in the spot you want.

The lack of understanding of keymod, and the bitterness about it is just silly. Do people need to upgrade just for the sake of doing it? No. It's not really even an "upgrade" either. Is it worth considering if you wanted a free float handguard on a future build? Sure. If every manufacturer decides to make only keymod handguards going forward, it doesn't really affect anyones current build, and won't really have an affect going forward unless you're really desperate for a quad rail in the future. But since manufacturers are going to keep making quad rails for some time going forward, that's a non-issue.

Exactly right. I prefer narrow (1.5") slick sided free float hand guards with only the pic sections I need, which is usually just one 2" section on top to hold the front sight (if I don't use a front sight/gas block combo).

With the exception of my target AR with bull barrel, I prefer the rest of them as light as possible as there is really only upside to a light weight rifle.

All my other pre-Keymod free float hand guards work perfectly fine and won't be replaced, but none of the pic rail attachment points are compatible with each other as they are all different brands.

Keymod solves that and due to the slots also brings the added benefit of less weight.

Keymod is becoming a popular standard no different than picatinny rails are.

[fuenstock]

Here are my tacti-cool mall ninja keymod ar's.

16" mid length Daniel defense with 13" BCM KMR, and a 14.5" midlength BMC with 10" KMR.