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  • Infidel
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 647

    Can I make my own 10/30's out of Rebuild kits???

    Like the title says, is there anything illegal about ordering the C-Products Hi-Cap mag repair kits from WWW.LAKSUPPLY.COM and making my own 10/20 or 10/30? The reason I ask is that I have the C-products 10/30 that LanWorld sells and it looks like all they did was take a Cold Chisel and a Hammer, and punch out a spot on one side of the mag body therefore not allowing the follower to pass the tab thats been punched into the inside of the mag. If its legal I would love to buy a $15 rebuild kit and use my own tools and 5 mins of my time than spend $30 for someone else to do it.
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    Frijolito1988
    Veteran Member
    • May 2008
    • 2710

    Originally posted by Infidel
    Like the title says, is there anything illegal about ordering the C-Products Hi-Cap mag repair kits from WWW.LAKSUPPLY.COM and making my own 10/20 or 10/30? The reason I ask is that I have the C-products 10/30 that LanWorld sells and it looks like all they did was take a Cold Chisel and a Hammer, and punch out a spot on one side of the mag body therefore not allowing the follower to pass the tab thats been punched into the inside of the mag. If its legal I would love to buy a $15 rebuild kit and use my own tools and 5 mins of my time than spend $30 for someone else to do it.
    I actually though about this 2 days ago, i though BRILLIANT i dont think anybody has though about this before just buy rebuild kits and fix them to hold 10rounds myself..but the questions is how to do it
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    • #3
      sigsauer887
      Senior Member
      • May 2008
      • 734

      Yes, just make sure it's permanent and doesn't hold more than 10 rounds.

      PS - Put your flame suit on your gonna need it

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      • #4
        emc002
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2007
        • 2331

        If you didn't own normal capacity magazines before the ban, you have nothing to repair, hence it'd be illegal.
        If OTOH you did own them before the ban...
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        • #5
          bohoki
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 20771

          where in the law does it say it has to be permanant it just cannot hold more than 10 rounds

          reading the law it seems to refer to converting large capacity magazines

          since repair kits are not "large capacity" magazines (or importing them would be illegal) if they are assembled to only hold 10

          of course these are just my opinions using logic which seldom applies to the law

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          • #6
            Infidel
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 647

            Originally posted by emc002
            If you didn't own normal capacity magazines before the ban, you have nothing to repair, hence it'd be illegal.
            If OTOH you did own them before the ban...
            Why would this be illegal I'm not ordering an assembled hi cap just the body/parts.

            Additionally once it is assembled it will be a 10 magazine. I fail to see why unless someone can show me where in the law this is illegal.


            BTW
            Before anyone gets out their Flame Thrower, I did a search on this subject and there were posts about it, but as far as I can tell the question has never been answered unequivocally YES or NO
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            • #7
              Heavy_Grinder
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2006
              • 1533

              Originally posted by Infidel
              Why would this be illegal I'm not ordering an assembled hi cap just the body/parts.

              Additionally once it is assembled it will be a 10 magazine. I fail to see why unless someone can show me where in the law this is illegal.


              BTW
              Before anyone gets out their Flame Thrower, I did a search on this subject and there were posts about it, but as far as I can tell the question has never been answered unequivocally YES or NO
              whats your gameplan on how you're going to modify a 30 rd tube to hold 10???

              Punch method, rivet, epoxy, or a cut down???

              I think it would easier just to pay a little more and buy a 10/30 from a vendor.

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              • #8
                Infidel
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 647

                Most likely either a punch/cold chisel, or a pop rivet. I'm not opposed to other methods I simply chose these methods because I own the tools to use them.
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                • #9
                  Infidel
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 647

                  Originally posted by Heavy_Grinder

                  I think it would easier just to pay a little more and buy a 10/30 from a vendor.
                  Well you are paying $30 through LanWorld for a 10/30 that has been punched and could be reversed in 2 mins. All I'm saying is why should I pay $30 for something that I could pay $15 for, that literally took them 30 secs to do modify.
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                  • #10
                    emc002
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 2331

                    Originally posted by Infidel
                    Why would this be illegal I'm not ordering an assembled hi cap just the body/parts.
                    Originally posted by Infidel
                    Like the title says, is there anything illegal about ordering the C-Products Hi-Cap mag repair kits from WWW.LAKSUPPLY.COM and making my own 10/20 or 10/30?
                    Hmm, your words not mine. WTF are you "repairing"?
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                    • #11
                      Dirtbiker
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 2810

                      My understanding is you can manufacture you own 10 round magazines.
                      There is nothing illegal about buying repair kits even if you did not own high cap mags before the ban. However, it IS illegal to manufacture a high cap mag from repair kits unless you are repairing legally (pre 2000) owned hi cap mags.

                      Clear as mud right?
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                      • #12
                        Infidel
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 647

                        I'm not repairing anything. Here let me change the questions.

                        Question# 1
                        Can I legally posess a hi-cap mag repair kit if I do not already own a preban Hi-Cap Mag?

                        Question# 2 (only if question one is legal)
                        If I Legally possess a Hi-Cap mag repair kit can I manufacture a CALIFORNIA LEGAL 10/30 mag out of it?
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                        • #13
                          aplinker
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 16762

                          This has been asked dozens of times. Did you try search first?

                          You can buy magazine parts of any type for any legal purpose, including making 10rd mags. There's no issue. You don't need to own pre-ban large capacity mags. Parts are simply parts, until they're assembled into a legal (10rd or less) or illegal magazine.

                          Pop-rivets + epoxy, filling with epoxy, epoxy on a plate or bending tabs (I wouldn't do this with an aluminum magazine) are methods that have been used. I would actually suggest rivet + epoxy has some legal basis and a plate epoxied in would be the most durable and easiest.

                          Many, many people have done this.

                          Originally posted by Infidel
                          I'm not repairing anything. Here let me change the questions.

                          Question# 1
                          Can I legally posess a hi-cap mag repair kit if I do not already own a preban Hi-Cap Mag?

                          Question# 2 (only if question one is legal)
                          If I Legally possess a Hi-Cap mag repair kit can I manufacture a CALIFORNIA LEGAL 10/30 mag out of it?
                          yes to both

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                          • #14
                            tgun
                            Member
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 108

                            Maybe he's stocking up on repair kits in case the ban gets repealed. Then he could go buy some 30 rounders and he would have all of the parts to repair them if they broke.
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                            • #15
                              Infidel
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 647

                              Thanks DirtBiker it seems very clear to me.
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