Blackdog Mags aren't working with my AR ciener kit?!?!?!?!?

[Infidel]

Basically when I use that ugly ***** mag that came with my ciener kit it works flawlessly, but when I pop in my fancy new Blackdog Machine Full Body 10 rounder it won't feed! I end up ejecting between two and 5 rounds before I can get it to feed. I only bought that mag because a lot of people said it was "the only way to go" now it doesn't even work. I like the way the black dog looks a lot better, and it feels more solid that those ugly ciener ones, but I can't even use it! Any suggestions would really be appreciated. I was going to order about 5 more of the Blackdogs when I first got it, but now I don't know.

BTW...I'm using Remington the Remington Golden Bullet .22 LR hollow points. Do you think that might be the issue?

[Richy]

That sounds pretty weird, I use my buddies 27rd mags in his ciener kit and get a couple FTE's every now and again but nothing major like you described.

Maybe call BD up and ask them?

[catsupsam]

I have three of the blackdog slim mags. They work perfectly in my ciener conversion. Maybe you got a bad one?

[Infidel]

Does anyone think it might be the Hollow Point ammo?

[studiojon]

Does anyone think it might be the Hollow Point ammo?

my ciener kit hates that ammo, I stick with fed Bulk or CCI mini mags and Aguila I havent had a problem with those brands and I use BD Mags

just try a few different kinds of ammo and stick with what works

my 2 cents.

[sanddragon2004]

got prob 6000 rounds of that setup through my stag upper.

[sanddragon2004]

and no problems at all.

[bohoki]

try federals or blazer

but it should work with rem

that box is so cute its like half the size i get at walmart


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[Harbinger]

I have the same EXACT issue with BDM mags and Remington HP .22. I bought three more Ciener mags because of this.

Let me get some pics up on tinypic that i took of the line-up problem the BlackDog mags have.

Mike

[Harbinger]

BDM Magazine lineup with chamber, and a Remington Golden Bullet HP .22:



Ciener Magazine lineup with chamber, same round:



I'm fairly certain the lineup + hollow point + soft bullet seating are to blame.

I switched to Federals (which I can't find except in Sacramento Wal-Marts) and things have been fine for both types of mags.

Mike

[BroncoBob]

Spikes test all their uppers with the Federal Copper Top bullets. It is the only brand they recommend. They also make their own bolt carrier system.

[Harbinger]

Spikes test all their uppers with the Federal Copper Top bullets. It is the only brand they recommend. They also make their own bolt carrier system.

I think it should be said that only recently have they started making their own bolt carrier system. Most older models are modified (chamber insert removed) Cieners.

Mike