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  • WilliamAnderson
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 733

    PRE ban POST ban confusion.

    Some of you may already know that I'm building my first AR Oll into a rifle within the next few days. I just wanted to know if when I order my parts kit if I have to worry about whether or not the parts are pre ban or post ban. I have a spikes tactical OLL, a bullet button gen 2, and a ten round magazine.
    What are your thoughts???
  • #2
    pwall
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 615

    that is referring to the federal ban, which is no longer in effect. Dont worry about that. Get familiar with CA laws instead.

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    • #3
      WilliamAnderson
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 733

      Then why would they keep selling ban stuff anyway?

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      • #4
        JeffM
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 4359

        If you're doing a bullet button you can use "pre-ban" parts all you want.

        It gets tricky if you want to run a featureless rifle. You can still use "pre-ban" uppers because bayonet lugs are not AW features in CA and the flash hiders can be replaced with a muzzle break.

        The flash hider and bayonet lug are really the only difference. They are omited on "post ban" rifles from the '94-04 federal ban. These are more like leftovers from that time period.

        Pre-ban and No-ban parts are the same.

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        • #5
          WilliamAnderson
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 733

          Thanks! I've got a gen 2 bullet button so it sounds like I'll be fine!

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          • #6
            FEDUPWBS
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2006
            • 2187

            Jeff I think we need to have a talk with MrWilliamAnderson. He is confused and wants an AR for some reason
            Originally posted by ChrisO
            My solar tac grip wrap just slides off if I pull on it... I can tighten it down as much as I can and it will still slide off. I got it for a regular AK PG and it's on a standard romanian bakelite I think PG... What should I do? I kept the mag lock installed just in case this would happen...

            Originally posted by stphnman20
            What is a FEDUPWBS?

            Originally posted by weezil_boi
            ( Yes, FEDUP... you were right ).Just 1.5 cents

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            • #7
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 56941

              Originally posted by WilliamAnderson
              Then why would they keep selling ban stuff anyway?
              Some states have bans that mostly mirror the old federal ban.
              People in those states still need to buy postban configured uppers.
              Randall Rausch

              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
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              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
              Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
              Most work performed while-you-wait.

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 56941

                Oh, and don't take AR advice from AK guys.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                • #9
                  JeffM
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 4359

                  Originally posted by FEDUPWBS
                  Jeff I think we need to have a talk with MrWilliamAnderson. He is confused and wants an AR for some reason
                  Xnay on the AKsay.

                  AKs suck.

                  Don't buy an AK.

                  Don't buy any AK parts.

                  Stick with ARs.

                  Buy AR stuff.

                  Don't buy any 7.62x39 or 5.45x39. It is crap. The only stuff worth shooting is Federal or Winchester 5.56.

                  Tell everyone you know that AK stuff is crap and they should stay far far away from it.

                  Period. That is my advice.

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                  • #10
                    Saigon1965
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 17276

                    Originally posted by FEDUPWBS
                    Jeff I think we need to have a talk with MrWilliamAnderson. He is confused and wants an AR for some reason

                    I've already directed him to you in another thread, he's in your neck of the woods too. Lets see if you can make a convert out of him - He's still young.

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                    • #11
                      JeffM
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 4359

                      Originally posted by saigon1965
                      I've already directed him to you in another thread, he's in your neck of the woods too. Lets see if you can make a convert out of him - He's still young.
                      We don't need more converts. We need more former ComBlocs to join NATO so they need to cut up their nice new AKs and dump their x39 for 5.56.

                      Maybe Russia should join NATO.

                      Yea.

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                      • #12
                        aplinker
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 16762

                        Originally posted by JeffM
                        We don't need more converts. We need more former ComBlocs to join NATO so they need to cut up their nice new AKs and dump their x39 for 5.56.

                        Maybe Russia should join NATO.

                        Yea.
                        The Ukraine almost did.

                        I like AKs and all, but they're no better than ARs... They're barely cheaper anymore, which is annoying. I miss $75 kits.

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 56941

                          Originally posted by JeffM
                          AKs suck.

                          Don't buy an AK.
                          Thanks for the new sigline.
                          Randall Rausch

                          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                          Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                          Most work performed while-you-wait.

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