Hey Geissele Match Rifle Adjustable Trigger Owners...

[BigJ]

This is my first Geissele. I've watched the vids and read the instructions, and I believe I have it adjusted just about perfect for my preferences.

However, during the 1st stage pull, I'd swear there is some grittyness, or notchyness. Its as if the surfaces aren't sliding freely against eachother, but rather are skipping:



Any thoughts? Dirt? Lack of lube? Defective? Out of adjustment? I'll give Geissele a call tomorrow, but maybe ya'll can point me in the right direction before I have to bother them? Thanks for your time.

[russ69]

Grease it and let it wear in. If you still have issues call the guys.

[joefrank64k]

I've got a Hi-Speed National Match, Match Rifle trigger. The first and second stages are INSANE...zero grittiness. You might want to do a little dry-fire with it first, though mine was GTG from the start. Geissele will make it right.

[The Gleam]

1) Be sure you have lubed the contact points; but I bet you did.

2) Be sure you didn't get to a point just where it sets NO stage 1, ae-adjusted, for a slight stage 1 and then jumped to backing off the 1/4 adjustment. It stresses that in the instructions. You have to start the increment process again.

3) Also, after you have used the slave/temporary or original AR pins during adjustment, and then put in the thicker Geissele pins, adjust it again for finer tuning.

4) Those initial sear and tension adjustements should be done in very little increments; don't jump them to far too soon.

[BigJ]

Thanks guys. I just recleaned and relubed that exact spot and there's no doubt in my mind something is up. You can actually hear (if you put your ear right next to it) the first stage skip/slide as constant pressure is applied. If I push down ever so slightly on the hammer with my opposite hand (just enough to relieve all pressure from the contact points I drew arrows on in the pic) the trigger pulls smooth as silk. Let the hammer back up and it gets notchy again.

Guess I'll give them a call in the morning. Thanks again.

[cabinetguy]

If it is a trigger issue, they have great customer service. Hopefully a call will fix it for you.

[BigJ]

I went through and just reset the seer engagement as per the instructions and video. No improvement.

Here's a quick vid I shot that shows the issue pretty well. You can't really hear it in the vid, but you can certainly see it:

[The Gleam]

The spring legs on the trigger are laying straight out on the bottom, and the spring legs on the hammer are over the outside of the trigger spring coils on the axis of the pins in their proper places? That didn't jump back inward during last of the installation?

Did the trigger spring legs get bent during installation?

Is there enough clearance at the front of the trigger hole/slot in that the front edge of the trigger is not "camming" on the edge of the hole?

Other than that, I got nothing.

[ar15barrels]

I went through and just reset the seer engagement as per the instructions and video. No improvement.

Here's a quick vid I shot that shows the issue pretty well. You can't really hear it in the vid, but you can certainly see it:

Do you understand how two stage triggers work?
The 2nd stage starts when the disconnector comes to bear on the trigger.
Your video is showing the 1st stage to 2nd stage transistion working perfectly.

[IPSICK]

Do you understand how two stage triggers work?
The 2nd stage starts when the disconnector comes to bear on the trigger.
Your video is showing the 1st stage to 2nd stage transistion working perfectly.

I think he understands and I can see what the OP is talking about. I've tried a Hi-Speed trigger and that notchiness was not there in the 1st stage like I'm seeing in his video. However, I didn't own the Hi-Speed I tried so I wasn't able to look at or play with the adjustment mechanisms.

[problemchild]

Call G and they will tell you how to fix it. I had an issue years ago but cannot remember the fix.

[BigJ]

Do you understand how two stage triggers work?

Yes.

I think he understands and I can see what the OP is talking about. I've tried a Hi-Speed trigger and that notchiness was not there in the 1st stage like I'm seeing in his video. However, I didn't own the Hi-Speed I tried so I wasn't able to look at or play with the adjustment mechanisms.

^^This^^ I've compared it to other Geissele's, and there's no doubt there's something up with this one.

Call G and they will tell you how to fix it. I had an issue years ago but cannot remember the fix.

Just got off the phone and they didn't hesitate. They're sending me a complete new trigger kit ASAP. Awesome customer service for sure.

I'll report back when the new one is in, but I don't expect any further problems.

Thanks for the helps guys!

[randomBytes]

I think this is covered in the instructions, any drag during 1st stage is likely the trigger rubbing on the selector, you may need widen the slot in the selector.
Notchey feel at end of 1st stage lack of sear engagement IIRC

[BigJ]

I think this is covered in the instructions, any drag during 1st stage is likely the trigger rubbing on the selector, you may need widen the slot in the selector.

Yeah that is covered in the instructions and no that's not the issue. As a test I removed the selector entirely and still had the issue.

[tal3nt]

Anti walk / rotation pins smoothen out trigger pull. That's the only reason why I use em.