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  • vector16
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 695

    is a selector switch nesesary

    I have an AR and the selector switch is not really functioning that well. Its very hard to turn. I was wondering if they are really necessary for the AR to fire? I do know how to take it apart and check it. It is currently in jail till Friday. This is just a question to see if it can be removed and not have an impact on whether the rifle will function or not.

    Its a DPMS Oracle 5.56.
  • #2
    Mossy Man
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2011
    • 7641

    it will probably ware itself in and be easier after a few hundred switches

    after a while, if its still that hard to turn, clip a few coils off the safety detent spring

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    • #3
      m16
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 2527

      No it's not necessary but it's a really bad idea to not have a functioning safety.

      If it's a brand new lower it probably just needs to be lubed and used.

      If it doesn't loosen up with a little use, the hole in your grip probably isn't drilled deep enough and this is putting too much tension on the spring.

      I've had this happen with grips from Magpul and TangoDown right out of the box, takes about ten seconds to fix with a drill.
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      • #4
        kielbasavw
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 1611

        Safeties suck, remove the switch and shoot!

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        • #5
          POLICESTATE
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          • Apr 2009
          • 18185

          Considering it's also your safety...
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          • #6
            goodlookin1
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 2557

            Take your trigger apart and take out the selector. Take out the little pin that actually makes the selector to "click" and round it over a little bit. You can also take a pointed jewelers file and ever so slightly round over the indentations on the rounded side of the selector (the channel where the pin rubs) and just make it smoother, less steep of an angle for the pin to pop out of the indent, etc.

            It just needs to be broken in, cleaned up, etc. Milspec parts are not known for clean, smooth, or polished edges.

            But don't take it off completely. There's a safety for a reason. If you really don't like the safety, then just keep it in the fire position.
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            • #7
              Norcal Industries
              Senior Member
              • May 2010
              • 1241

              maybe loosen the grip screw a tad?

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 56984

                Originally posted by vector16
                I have an AR and the selector switch is not really functioning that well. Its very hard to turn. I was wondering if they are really necessary for the AR to fire? I do know how to take it apart and check it. It is currently in jail till Friday. This is just a question to see if it can be removed and not have an impact on whether the rifle will function or not.

                Its a DPMS Oracle 5.56.
                The rifle will function without it, but you will get some trigger slap as the selector limits the trigger's overtravel.
                You don't actually HAVE to ever turn the selector if it's hard to turn.
                Just leave it on "fire" and treat the gun like you should every gun with regards to trigger control.
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                • #9
                  TacticalPlinker
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 2532

                  You can always replace the selector switch, detent and/or spring. Any of those could improve the ability to move it. Something could also be out of spec, but would eventually wear down after being used.

                  Just remember the selector is also the safety, so not having one is a bad idea.

                  If nothing else, use Randall's suggestion above, leave it in the fire position and exercise extreme caution & discipline at all times, especially if the firearm is loaded!
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                  • #10
                    Baboosh
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 6769

                    If you remove your safety switch let me know what range you shoot at so I can make sure to never go there.
                    Last edited by Baboosh; 12-23-2013, 11:56 PM.
                    Just a normal guy

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                    • #11
                      kielbasavw
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 1611

                      Give me a fkn break..... you know how many guns dont have safeties....... they work just fine and shoot "accidentally" just as often as ones with safe

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                      • #12
                        m16
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 2527

                        Originally posted by kielbasavw
                        Give me a fkn break..... you know how many guns dont have safeties....... they work just fine and shoot "accidentally" just as often as ones with safe
                        Good grief, are you for real???

                        I thought your first retarded post was a lame attempt at humor, do everyone here a favor and stop posting in this thread.

                        Advising someone to "remove it because safeties suck" is just about the dumbest thing I have ever seen on this forum.
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                        • #13
                          TacticalPlinker
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 2532

                          What guns don't have some sort of safety? Rather it be internal (Glock) or external (1911)... I can't think of any at the moment.

                          Safety or not, exercise safety and awareness at all times. Guns are not toys.
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                          • #14
                            kielbasavw
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 1611

                            Uhhhhhh seriously? Many variants of hk's..... some lever guns, thats just on the top of my head since I own those.

                            Hk even sells the trigger kits to change your safety guns over to no safety and no decockers....

                            Safeties suck, and unnecessary. Your brain and your finger is all thats needed.

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                            • #15
                              MrPlink
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 12532

                              Easier (well safer) to prance around with a loaded chamber with a safety. If you arent ever going to do that on an AR then I suppose there is no harm really
                              The California Moderate Centrist Militia member in exile

                              disclaimer:
                              everything I post is for arguendo and entertainment purposes only, and should not be construed to be legal advice

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