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I thought the 6.5grendel was so much better than 308?
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I thought the 6.5grendel was so much better than 308?
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I think the main thing about the grendel is it works in an ar15 platform and has better performance than 223,with low recoil . My .02 grendel is not better than 308 but if you want a 6.5 bullet I will take my 260 remy's over 308 any day( for hunting) my rifles in 260 are like laser beams! They shoot way better than I can! -
Maybe I missed something but I don't recall ever seeing anything that claimed the 6.5 Grendel was "better" then a .308.
Better then .223, AAC300Blk, 6.8SPC yes but better then .308...no.Comment
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i never saw 6.5grendel compared to .308.
maybe you mistaken 6.5 creedmoor? 6.5creedmoor is ballistically better than 308Comment
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Most comparisons of the Grendel and the 308 are comparing crappy 308 BALL ammo to 6.5 Match grade bullets.
Comparing equal quality bullets and barrel lengths, the 308 always wins.Randall Rausch
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The Grendel was never supposed to be better than the .308 or flatter shooting. It was designed to have a similar trajectory and range as .308 ball, but with more range and energy than the 5.56. It accomplished both tasks and it fits in the smaller and lighter AR-15 platform."Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill
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O.P. Flatter shooting. Hmm. And down range energy? Buy a 308.Comment
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Randall Rausch
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Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
Most work performed while-you-wait.Comment
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After 600 yards the high BC of the 6.5 bullets at 2800FPS takes over and passes the 308. If you really push the 6.5 140/142gr bullets fast (3100fps) like I do, the 308 becomes pointless. A hot 6.5 will shoot farther, hit harder and kick less. With the right gear you can make accurate mile shots with the 6.5 bullets. The down side..... most quality 6.5 ammo costs a lot. Reloading removes the cost difference between them. Also the 6.5 eats barrels faster. 99% of shooters would be happy with a 308. I'm in the odd-ball club and like to be differentComment
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Truth ^^^
After 600 yards the high BC of the 6.5 bullets at 2800FPS takes over and passes the 308. If you really push the 6.5 140/142gr bullets fast (3100fps) like I do, the 308 becomes pointless. A hot 6.5 will shoot farther, hit harder and kick less. With the right gear you can make accurate mile shots with the 6.5 bullets. The down side..... most quality 6.5 ammo costs a lot. Reloading removes the cost difference between them. Also the 6.5 eats barrels faster. 99% of shooters would be happy with a 308. I'm in the odd-ball club and like to be differentComment
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Depends on what you want the round and rifle to do for you.
A few examples to follow.
1) .223 is cheaper and you can blow through a lot more for rifle courses and such. Also there is so much more ammo ready to go for it just about anywhere.
2) 300blk commercial sub-sonics I am sure are much quieter then commercial 6.5 grendal ammo in a suppressor I am sure. ( I know you guys can't have them but I can and do, sorry)
3) I stalk hunt in heavy brush and typically my shots are 20-30 yards and my 16" 6.8 is much lighter then a 24" 6.5. I have seen a lot of evidence that at that range it has more energy than a 6.5.
4) See below, also it is lighter than an AR-10.
I wouldn't mind making a 6.5 upper but really in FL I have no use for it. I have thought that I will make one for CO hunting but I have not done so yet. So I am not knocking the 6.5 at all.Last edited by Nathan Krynn; 12-18-2013, 2:11 PM.Comment
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Oh lord no. I wish. I was more speaking about the 6.5 bullet vs the 7.62. Cartridges like the 260rem, 6.5CM, 6.5x55, 6.5x284. Sorry, Randell got me side-tracked and my mind drifted. I should have made that more clear.
The Grendel will never hit the speed to come close to matching a 308 in power. The latest development in the 300blk has guys shooting those same 7.62 bullets out the 1000 yards. Not bad at all. Better option than a 6.5 Grendel IMO.Comment
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