sks legality question

[carlos4840]

Are thumbhole stocks legal here in ca?I see them on vepr's But have yet to see one here in ca I like the look of the sks sporter.

[Yugo]

Yes, I know it looks cool but makes the rifle shoot bad. It throws the whole balance off.

I am still waiting to see how people like the new ProMag stock.

So far when it comes to performance, the original stock is the best.

[Quiet]

Under CA laws...

A semi-auto centerfire rifle that accepts detachable magazines and has a thumbhole stock is considered an assault weapon. [PC 30515(a)(1)(B)]


Therefore...
If you want to install a thumbhole stock to a semi-auto centerfire rifle, then that rifle needs to operate using a fixed 10 or less round magazine.

[Mossy Man]

^which an SKS is by default and must remain so in CA (unless registered as a RAW or is a Yugo M59).

Modifications on SKS rifles need to be 922r compliant, but I think the feds classify thumbhole stocks as sporting still so it might be ok.

[carlos4840]

Im looking for one like this

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=380634135

But with fixed mag If they make it?And are any sks's with detachable mags legal for ca if so what models?BTW that ProMag stock looks bad ***.Im just into the more classic wood furniture look.Thanks guys.

[Mossy Man]

Im looking for one like this

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=380634135

But with fixed mag If they make it?And are any sks's with detachable mags legal for ca if so what models?BTW that ProMag stock looks bad ***.Im just into the more classic wood furniture look.Thanks guys.

SKS with detachable mag is banned by name.

SKS in its original configuration is CA legal as is.

Yugo M59s aren't technically SKS rifles, so they can be used with detachable mags. However just because its legal doesn't mean you won't be arrested and charged anyway. Additionally, it would need to still follow CAs AW ban based on features.

Changing to a non sporter configuration (collapsing stocks, pistol grips, muzzle attachments, etc.), triggers Federal 922r on both rifles.

[carlos4840]

^which an SKS is by default and must remain so in CA (unless registered as a RAW or is a Yugo M59).

Modifications on SKS rifles need to be 922r compliant, but I think the feds classify thumbhole stocks as sporting still so it might be ok.

So the Yugo m59 with detachable mags is good to go as is?

[Varg Vikernes]

Why would you even want to use those terrible Tapco detachable mags when you can just buy an AK or something instead.

[sealocan]

pay attention because this is where it gets tricky..and my question pertains to this thread.

I was informed recently by 2 members here that
my "ATI fiberforce "
(a Dragunov/hunting rifle style) stock is considered a thumb hole stock and will not trigger 922 compliance rules, it does not have a pistol grip by their definition, therefore it keeps its "sporting purpose" is this correct?
I would love to have something in writing about this other than just word of mouth.
can anyone post a link or give us more solid information?

if I can keep from triggering the 922 compliance rules I would prefer that, we wouldn't have to buy a unnecessary parts.

and Carlos the
answer may help you decide whether you want to go thumbhole stock or not.

thank you in advance to anyone who can help.

[Mossy Man]

So the Yugo m59 with detachable mags is good to go as is?

Technically.

You can still get arrsted and charged for AW possession, but you'll probably win.

Its no different than OLLs, except it's not widely accepted like OLL/BBs.

Which to me is a big exception.

Everyone needs to run with the level of risk they're willing to take.

[carlos4840]

Why would you even want to use those terrible Tapco detachable mags when you can just buy an AK or something instead.

I already have an ak.And yeah those duckbilled mags look horrible But I've been seeing sks's on gunbroker with detachable ak mags.

[carlos4840]

Thanks Guys for all your input much appreciated

[Quiet]

But I've been seeing sks's on gunbroker with detachable ak mags.

SKS that use AK magazines are make/model banned in CA. [PC 30710]
(make) Norinco (model) SKS-D
(make) Norinco (model) SKS-M
(make) Made in China (model) SKS Sporter.

Nothing can be done to make them CA legal.

If you want one, you will need to move to another state.



Penal Code 30510
As used in this chapter and in Sections 16780, 17000, and 27555, "assault weapon" means the following designated semiautomatic firearms:
(a) All of the following specified rifles:
(11) SKS with detachable magazine.

Penal Code 30710
Notwithstanding paragraph (11) of subdivision (a) of Section 30510, an "SKS rifle" under this article means all SKS rifles commonly referred to as "SKS Sporter" versions, manufactured to accept a detachable AK-47 magazine and imported into this state and sold by a licensed gun dealer, or otherwise lawfully possessed in this state by a resident of this state who is not a licensed gun dealer, between January 1, 1992, and December 19, 1997.

[Quiet]

I already have an ak.And yeah those duckbilled mags look horrible

the duckbill SKS magazines are not as reliable as the original SKS fixed magazine and it is faster to reload the original SKS fixed 10 round magazine using stripper clips than to reload using the duckbill SKS magazine.