Anyone running a Vltor casv-m on their rifle?

[takinflight33]

just wondering if anyone is still running one of these on their rifles. I know they are not whats in style but i still kind of want one.

[Chewbaca]

Nope nobody ...

[clipofblanks]

They are very nice. Easier on hands than holding a quad rail. Plus I'm a fan of shrouding the gas block and mounting iron on top.

[xOperator]

if you are looking for a rail with a similar flat botton, here is one:

[penguinofsleep]

i have one. was my first handguard before i realized that on an AR, i just naturally want to grip out front closer to the muzzle (and yes, this was before i saw all the people doing it the last few years or any of the videos where this is now really popular). casv-m doesn't work for this for me. other than that, i really like it. i've tried a lot of other handguards since then, still really like my casv-m. just wish they would make longer ones.

the above will be negated if i ever build an ar pistol or move out of state and get an SBR.


not a like/dislike, but different:
that extra few mm that it raises your optic and irons from having it's own rail over the top of the upper will make you not have a tight cheek weld if you like that (i know some people don't as they feel it decreases situational awareness) and it will also slightly offset your zero's unless you get the extra vltor front sight meant for the casv-m (which i will in the future) since it will sit several mm higher than a "normal" iron would. so instead of say a 50/200 zero, you may get 50/1xx or 2xx zero... but this happens as you change barrel lengths and loads anyways. however you also have more flexibility with mounting optics as you now effectively have a monolithic rail up top instead of 2 separate rails that won't hold precise alignment with each other.

the bottom half can also come right off and go right back on if you ever need it to for whatever reason.

cons:
not a big one, but if anyone likes to mount rails at 45 degrees on their handguards, it's doable on the casv-m, but you cannot fit the rail over on the side closer to the top rail since there will be very little space between the 45 degree and top rail... unless you do it out front in where the front rail ends (but then that means you can't functionally add rail there anymore).


but with the above, bottom line, i still like it more than most handguards.

[takinflight33]

i have one. was my first handguard before i realized that on an AR, i just naturally want to grip out front closer to the muzzle (and yes, this was before i saw all the people doing it the last few years or any of the videos where this is now really popular). casv-m doesn't work for this for me. other than that, i really like it. i've tried a lot of other handguards since then, still really like my casv-m. just wish they would make longer ones.

the above will be negated if i ever build an ar pistol or move out of state and get an SBR.


not a like/dislike, but different:
that extra few mm that it raises your optic and irons from having it's own rail over the top of the upper will make you not have a tight cheek weld if you like that (i know some people don't as they feel it decreases situational awareness) and it will also slightly offset your zero's unless you get the extra vltor front sight meant for the casv-m (which i will in the future) since it will sit several mm higher than a "normal" iron would. so instead of say a 50/200 zero, you may get 50/1xx or 2xx zero... but this happens as you change barrel lengths and loads anyways. however you also have more flexibility with mounting optics as you now effectively have a monolithic rail up top instead of 2 separate rails that won't hold precise alignment with each other.

the bottom half can also come right off and go right back on if you ever need it to for whatever reason.

cons:
not a big one, but if anyone likes to mount rails at 45 degrees on their handguards, it's doable on the casv-m, but you cannot fit the rail over on the side closer to the top rail since there will be very little space between the 45 degree and top rail... unless you do it out front in where the front rail ends (but then that means you can't functionally add rail there anymore).


but with the above, bottom line, i still like it more than most handguards.

thanks for the reply, very infomative

[starsnuffer]

If you do go with one, make sure you buy optic mounts made for it. ADM has CSAV specific mounts. Remember that the CSAV was made so that users of the M4 could use the same equipment as the HK416, so any mount designed for the 416 will also work with the CSAV rail (such as troy micro irons).

-W

[takinflight33]

What is the weight like on them?

[kilodeltacharlie]

not to hijack here, but

have a casv-m in black, with the matching front sight, and the ADM CASV Aimpoint T1/H1 mount for sale.

PM me if you're interested.

[bigbully]

I have the CASV-M on my go to AR. I really like it but I do have one con. It's not very straight. When I initially sighted it in it shot extreme left. I had to twist the forearm back to center a bit to get closer to center. It's better now. You can't tell unless you look closely at the alignment with barrel. I ended up sending it back to VLTOR but they said it was within spec. (Probably cause I had mostly bent it back to center.) I still really like it though. It's light, comfortable without rails and doesn't heat up quickly cause there's a heat shield between the arm and the barrel. I'll see if I can post a pic tonight.

[Jason25]

I have the CASV-M on my go to AR. I really like it but I do have one con. It's not very straight. When I initially sighted it in it shot extreme left. I had to twist the forearm back to center a bit to get closer to center. It's better now. You can't tell unless you look closely at the alignment with barrel. I ended up sending it back to VLTOR but they said it was within spec. (Probably cause I had mostly bent it back to center.) I still really like it though. It's light, comfortable without rails and doesn't heat up quickly cause there's a heat shield between the arm and the barrel. I'll see if I can post a pic tonight.

I had my CASV-EL on my carbine mounted on a bcm upper and had the issue not being properly aligned at first. Then I got a MUR 1a and it fits like a glove. Love the look and feel, as its a pretty simple handguard that has the option to be ninja. But I prefer the simpler side of it.

I liked it so much that I slapped a CASV-M on my 7.5" pistol build with a KX3 just peeking out of the end. No fitment issues on this one. They both work for me and never gave it a second thought since. To each his own man, if you like it and you want it, get it!

[bigbully]

I had my CASV-EL on my carbine mounted on a bcm upper and had the issue not being properly aligned at first. Then I got a MUR 1a and it fits like a glove. Love the look and feel, as its a pretty simple handguard that has the option to be ninja. But I prefer the simpler side of it.

I liked it so much that I slapped a CASV-M on my 7.5" pistol build with a KX3 just peeking out of the end. No fitment issues on this one. They both work for me and never gave it a second thought since. To each his own man, if you like it and you want it, get it!

Interesting that the upper change fixed yours. I wonder if it was the upper or just the act of reinstalling that seated it better. Mine is also on a MUR 1a.

[Jason25]

Interesting that the upper change fixed yours. I wonder if it was the upper or just the act of reinstalling that seated it better. Mine is also on a MUR 1a.

Very likely could've been just reseating. I did take try to reinstall it several times on the BCM with no success. I might have just gotten lucky when I put it on the MUR. It definitely isn't the easiest handguard to install. Give it another shot

[Sputnik]

I have the CASV-M on my AR with a regular gas block front sight and the CASV-EL on my AR .22 also with the standard front sight. As mentioned you do need shorter mounts for optics like Aimpoints if you want them to co-witness correctly. LaRue makes some nice ones.
The main thing for me is only having rail where I need/want it and having a smooth grip elsewhere-I like that. Weight is obviously more than plastic handguards but not horrible.
So, they're not whats in style? Are bell-bottoms coming back?

[razorduc]

I have the CASV-M with the VLTOR front sight. The rail leaves one space in the back that you can mount a BUIS. Not all will fit. I have the GG&G spring loaded rear sight. Unfortunately, haven't tested it yet to see how effective it is.

Agree with other posts that it's a very comfy handguard without the rails. I also happen to like how it looks.

And in case you're into that sort of thing, with some mods it can fit over the current model LWRC M6A2 piston. They had to get the delta ring over the free float barrel nut, and also make some mods to the interior of the handguard. But so far, it's the only one that fit.