Can family hold BB AR-15 for me for a few months?

[Wayson]

Ok, long story short I am trying to think of ways to work around SB 374 without castrating my rifle with epoxy.

One idea I'm kicking around is to pick up a BB-equipped lower receiver out of state (order via PSA) and have it shipped to my present location (not in CA). Then hand-deliver it to California and have my family hold on to it.

As I understand CA law, I would not have to register a BB-equipped AR-15 at the present time. If 374 gets signed/becomes law, I would have to register it. But, as registration doesn't need to happen until 1 Jan 2015, and I would be in the state by late spring 2014, I could take possession of the lower from my family, throw an upper on it, and register it to me.

Would this be legal, and am I missing any wrinkles?

[Chaos47]

Technically no, it would not be ok as it would be a loan over 30 days.
Yes our laws are that messed up even without getting into SB374.

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Lend_or_Loan_a_Firearm#30_days_or_less

[Wayson]

Well isn't that just peachy.

Thanks, Chaos. I'll continue to think of other diabolical plans, but that was my current best hope of preserving a weapon. I just hate putting all my eggs in the '374 gets vetoed' basket.

[brianm767]

First if you have your family hold onto it for longer than 30 days I believe it would have to be transfered to them, and even if you hand deliver it, it needs to go through a Cali FFL.

You have to legally take possesion of it prior to 1-1-2014 as a California resident in order to be able to register it by the 2015 deadline.

IMOP, bottom line, if your not a Cali resident by 1-1-2014 your not going to be able to legally register it. That is if Moonbeam doesnt Vito it.

[stangallmotor]

Sorry to derail your thread...

If you already own a BB equipped AR-15 and SB 374 passes and you have to register it as a RAW, Can you remove the BB or do you have to keep it on and still register?

Thanks and sorry again!

[BumBum]

Sorry to derail your thread...

If you already own a BB equipped AR-15 and SB 374 passes and you have to register it as a RAW, Can you remove the BB or do you have to keep it on and still register?

Thanks and sorry again!

There have been at least 1,743 other threads with this same question. Bottom line: We don't know yet, and hopefully we don't get to that point.

[stix213]

Technically no, it would not be ok as it would be a loan over 30 days.
Yes our laws are that messed up even without getting into SB374.
http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Le...0_days_or_less

As mentioned in previous threads, the OP should be able to sign a rental agreement to an area of the safe where the firearm would be stored. Then the firearm isn't being loaned, it is being stored in his rented space.

Write up a rental agreement for $1 a year, give mom or whoever the dollar and both sign the agreement, then store your BB'd rifle in YOUR rented space in the safe.

[stix213]

Sorry to derail your thread...

If you already own a BB equipped AR-15 and SB 374 passes and you have to register it as a RAW, Can you remove the BB or do you have to keep it on and still register?

Thanks and sorry again!

Remains to be seen if the DOJ tries any regulation BS, but if you read the law there is no mention of separate classes of AW's that have to follow separate law after registration. There is simply the AW definition, punishment for possessing a firearm in violation of the definition, and exemption from punishment for firearms properly registered. SB374 mostly just updates the definition.

[xxINKxx]

Seriously? Don't ask don't tell...it's close family.

[G21Shooter]

Sorry to derail your thread...

If you already own a BB equipped AR-15 and SB 374 passes and you have to register it as a RAW, Can you remove the BB or do you have to keep it on and still register?

Thanks and sorry again!

No one knows yet, the best we can do is guess. My guess is probably not, they are stupid but not stupid enough to let people have "eviler" guns.