Homebuilt MP5 question

[Discogodfather]

So am I almost finished building a MP5 that:

1) Complies to all Fed laws (16 barrel, semi converted trigger and shelf
2) Complies with all CA laws (fixed 10 round magazine, overall 26.5+ inch length, etc.)
3) Serial numbered the receiver with my initials and a number plus a location of manufacture (bent from flat)

I want to reg the gun (I know it is not a requirement) using this form:

http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/firearms/forms/volreg.pdf?

Under the "make" and "model" I know not to put HK and HK94 (its one the rossi list). Should I put "Home built" as make and "MP5" as model? Or something else?

I know volreg is not a requirement but I want to create a paper trail.

[jfifer]

You are registering? Good luck man.

I don't think too many calgunners will chime in.

[othersmightlive]

You are registering? Good luck man.

I don't think too many calgunners will chime in.

^this^

[othersmightlive]

But might i ask why you want this?

[infringed711]

Just wait a few months because you're gonna have to re register it as an aw anyway

[Discogodfather]

My reason for Volreg now is to create a paper trail proving when I made the gun when and if SB 374 comes into play. I don't want them to be able to claim I made the gun after some deadline. If I have the volreg done for it, then I am better off?

Just wanted to know in general what to put for make and model, I know it is an unpopular thing to volreg.

[hermosabeach]

MP5 was the class 3 select fire model. Was the 94 the semi auto version??

I don't know the series very well

I might lean towards the semi auto number to avoid any confusion.

Maybe HB94. ( home built 94)

[MrPlink]

Over all length needs to be over 30in (for now)

volreg wont change anything

[Arthur84]

Isn't OAL requirement 30" for us in Kali? And why register if you don't have to , yet.... I'd call it master blaster mod 1X.

[Discogodfather]

MP5 was the class 3 select fire model. Was the 94 the semi auto version??

I don't know the series very well

I might lean towards the semi auto number to avoid any confusion.

Maybe HB94. ( home built 94)

That sounds like a good idea but the semi auto version is on the Rossi list. I think I might use a V94 as model because it's a vector V94 copy? Thats a type of mp5 I have seen ppl have in CA.

Thanks for the 30" correction, it is in fact 32 inches long.

[Discogodfather]

Isn't OAL requirement 30" for us in Kali? And why register if you don't have to , yet.... I'd call it master blaster mod 1X.

So here is the problem: I wait until SB 374 passes (which it will not because I am calling JB every day twice) and then on Jan 1st I register the gun as an AW. They say "date of manufacturer" and I can't prove when it was made unless......I whip out the volreg and say here.

Just trying to see which way will be the least amount of hassle.

Since SB 374 will be vetoed after out onslaught of calls I would still want to register to avoid LEO's getting crazy when I say "home built", if I whip out a volreg they might calm down?

[XenosAce]

How about just make a video of the gun with time stamp, showing the days newspaper and adding the weather forecast while the local news plays live in the background? That should be enough proof that you finished it that day, and if it isn't, then I do not know how much help a Volreg will do for you when they want to take it away from you.

[MrPlink]

Im really confused on what it is you are worried about.
Rather, I think you are pretty confused on what the law is.

Let me break it down.
Complete the firearm within the current laws. (Mag lock, 30in oal etc etc)
Now, lets assume JB signs, there is no court injunction and all hope is lost, then you have until July 2015 to register. Which means sometime between then and whenever we know we are hypothetically screwed you mark your receiver as per the ATF guidelines, fill out AW reg, and once you are confirmed for reg then you can make it 26inches, no maglock, all the evil features, no mag capacity limits etc etc

As far as being paranoid about the state accusing you of building it post ban, well do a little research on what burden of proof is and you should understand why that is a non-issue in this scenario.

[Discogodfather]

Im really confused on what it is you are worried about.
Rather, I think you are pretty confused on what the law is.

Let me break it down.
Complete the firearm within the current laws. (Mag lock, 30in oal etc etc)
Now, lets assume JB signs, there is no court injunction and all hope is lost, then you have until July 2015 to register. Which means sometime between then and whenever we know we are hypothetically screwed you mark your receiver as per the ATF guidelines, fill out AW reg, and once you are confirmed for reg then you can make it 26inches, no maglock, all the evil features, no mag capacity limits etc etc

As far as being paranoid about the state accusing you of building it post ban, well do a little research on what burden of proof is and you should understand why that is a non-issue in this scenario.

Thanks for explaining, that makes sense. Still have an open question as to what to call your homebuilt gun on any form, both make and model.

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