hotshot 5.56 = garbage!!

[zfields]

Used to shoot hot shot I'd buy at AAA's all the time. Never a problem. It was brass case fmj.

They recently reinvented themselves a bit. I know the 762x39 is a rebranded romanian brand, I'm assuming there new 223 is some sort of steel cased also.

[CWDraco]

sounds like too thin of a rim and your extractor was jumping. Your Bolt doesnt have a black doughnut spacer. You can buy one and install it. I bet this problem goes away. LMT's have these as do many others. LMT came up with it.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/892652/buffer-technologies-extractor-upgrade-kit-ar-15

[BrassCase]

I too went to the range over the weekend to try out my newly assembled PSA upper on a formally 80% lower. During the panic I had bought 100 rounds of Herters steel cased 62 gr. 223. It fed OK, I had more of an issue with my steel ASC 10 round mags and when I switched to the PMags all was well.

The issue I had was with the accuracy. Cheap ammo = cheap results. 100yds, 20" SS barrel, scope zeroed. They went left, right, high and low. Switched to Sierra Match King and back in the center. With the Herters it looked like I was trying to make a 6" diameter ring around the center.

The upside to using Herters: I didn't need to use my shell catcher.

[Dsal_13]

They know exactly what they are doing.


You bought some, didn't ya?

No I did not... I'm a little bit smarter than to buy factory ammo that I have never in my life heard of.

[dennis1979gm]

Sounds more like an out of spec chamber. I would have someone check the size of the chamber to see if its cut to tight. Rguns isn't known for an outstanding product...

[CWDraco]

Sounds more like an out of spec chamber. I would have someone check the size of the chamber to see if its cut to tight. Rguns isn't known for an outstanding product...

How would an out of spec chamber only effect one brand of ammo? Its possible but I would think a chamber difference of that little variance wouldn't just effect one brand. The case circumference difference of that little would been seen on all types of brass. I agree Rguns isnt known for extreme quality control.

Steel FTE are due to tight chambers since the steel expands but doesnt contract. The extractor trys to pull it out but jumps the rim.

When this occurs with bass ammo or just one kind of brass ammo you look at the case itself. One poster said the case rim of the ammo in question is thinner then regular brands. While a tight chamber will cause this its more likely the extractor needs a spacer and this will solve the problem.

An examination of spent cases could find evidence of the extractor jumping the rim or even deforming it to the point it rips.

[dennis1979gm]

Brass case wall thickness could effect it if your chamber is out of spec. You start shooting out of spec ammo in an out of spec chamber you will have problems. As well as an out of spec gas port could give you FTE with hotter ammo do to being way over gassed. Just another avenue to look at to get you gun to work reliably.

[Baboosh]

Man this is another reason I love my $400 ding and dent CMMG AR, she shoots whatever I put in her.

[kellyhachihachi]

I had no malfunctions with my hotshot case, every round fired every round ejected, after all their slogan is "When every shot counts!"... and it was fed to an AK hahah

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Off topic, but oh how i hate you for that avi Z so jelly haha

[6114DAVE]

How would an out of spec chamber only effect one brand of ammo? Its possible but I would think a chamber difference of that little variance wouldn't just effect one brand. The case circumference difference of that little would been seen on all types of brass. I agree Rguns isnt known for extreme quality control.

Steel FTE are due to tight chambers since the steel expands but doesnt contract. The extractor trys to pull it out but jumps the rim.

When this occurs with bass ammo or just one kind of brass ammo you look at the case itself. One poster said the case rim of the ammo in question is thinner then regular brands. While a tight chamber will cause this its more likely the extractor needs a spacer and this will solve the problem.

An examination of spent cases could find evidence of the extractor jumping the rim or even deforming it to the point it rips.

I mentioned the thinner case rim. It cycled winchester and fiocchi perfectly

[pontiacpratt]

My buddy has an Rguns upper and it will not cycle steel...my Palmetto State Rifle has only been fed steel case with no issue. My old CMMG had 3 stuck cases of a case of a 1000 steel. Every manufacturer seems to eat a different diet

[captbilly]

So you are thinking you need a condom when shooting an AK?

AR is like a prom queen
AK is like a biker chick
Treat each accordingly.

Next time try the steel case with a biker chick

I guess that these days you don't want to have unprotected sex with anyone but, back in the day you could with the prom queen but, not the biker chick. So as not to be accused of sexism, a woman wouldn't have wanted to risk unprotected sex with the biker guy either.

[ebencikiv]

Edited for accuracy.

I like your new show ray

[chrisf]

Never had a problem. Maybe it's just your rifle? Both my rifles, have no problem with hot shot.