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  • grammaton76
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    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Dec 2005
    • 9511

    Easy removal of trigger guard rivets (AK build)

    A member PM'ed me and asked that I post my method for popping out the trigger guard rivets. I'm planning on setting up a thegunwiki.com article for this eventually, but figured I may as well do a writeup now to help out the cause.

    First off, the easiest way is to buy a pre-prepped kit. But, that's nowhere near the cheapest.

    So, my tools were a Roto-Zip RZ-20 (has a right angle grinder, invaluable in this), a set of pointy steel punches, one drift punch, channel-lock or long vise grip pliers, a 3lb hammer, and a drill press with split-point titanium nitride bits. I suspect that any good bits would do the trick. Oh, and a vise - gotta have a vise.

    First off, wear eye protection. Not optional.

    1. Grind off the (flat) ends of the rivets sticking out from the torch-cut receiver fragment. That doesn't take much time, and then you can use a pair of pliers to peel off that bit of metal. This is the really easy part, since you don't care about cutting into the metal on this one.

    2. Flip the trigger guard over, and start from the rounded heads of the rivets. Use the 3lb hammer and pointy steel punches to start a hole in the center of the rivets. Stop when you've opened up a decent hole, don't worry about the rivet head expanding. You actually kinda want it to do that.

    3. Use the drill press to drill down through the center of the rivet. Because they're short, this is really easy. Go all the way through the rivet. I personally used the bit of the receiver removed from right above the trigger guard, as a buffer to protect the jaws of my drill press vise. As soon as you see that start vibrating down below the rivet, you know the bit is through and it's time to retract the press.

    4. Take the right angle grinder, and slice a groove in the tops of the rivet heads. Pretend you're making a flat-head screwdriver groove. Don't go all the way down to the trigger guard; stop a little bit before then.

    5. Now, the part that makes it easy. Take the pointy steel punch, and drive into the rivet heads from the sides, crushing them basically INTO the groove you just made. That decreases the inner diameter of the rivet, and it'll pull away the rivet from the walls of the shaft.

    6. Run the drill press through it again. You don't need to go any larger, and you start from the top end (the one you took the receiver bit off of). What you're doing, is removing the material from the CENTER of the rivet, that you just crushed away from the walls. The rivet is basically shrinking in the hole.

    7. If the rivet doesn't pop out with a couple light strikes from a drift punch, repeat steps 5 and 6 until you've removed enough material that it does.

    This doesn't mark up your trigger guard nearly as much as getting it really tight in a vise and whacking it until the rivets pop out. Once you've got the hang of it, this method goes pretty fast. The last set of trigger guard rivets I popped out this way took about 5 minutes apiece.

    The rivet in the tail of the trigger guard is REALLY simple - because it doesn't have three friends helping it stay put, you can grind it down a little, then twist the rear until it works free.
    Last edited by grammaton76; 04-25-2006, 2:07 PM.
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    morepoop4u
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 2185

    This is how I do it, first I grind the rivet flush. Then I clamp the receiver stub in the vise and pry it off with some pliers. Then I grind it flush to the selector stop. I carefully chisel the selector stop off the TG with a a screw driver, making sure to chisel it from all the side evenly. Grind some more and cup the rivet heads in a 8mm socket and punch it out. I don't bother drilling them anymore.

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    • #3
      grammaton76
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      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Dec 2005
      • 9511

      Originally posted by morepoop4u
      Grind some more and cup the rivet heads in a 8mm socket and punch it out. I don't bother drilling them anymore.
      8mm socket? Any chance you could post some pics, particularly of how it meets up with the rivet head? I was thinking earlier that I'd have approached it differently if there were something that could make it a straight press/punch operation, but I went with the drill approach because I couldn't find any sockets in my toolbox or my roomie's toolbox that looked like they'd do the trick.
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      • #4
        morepoop4u
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 2185



        You could use a 5/16 socket instead if you don't have a 8mm. I pretty much seated the rivet on the socket and punched it out. Its that simple, I didn't bother with grinding the socket so it would sit flush on the rivet head. It normally takes 2 whacks, the first knocks it loose and the 2nd to finish it.
        good luck

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        • #5
          Charliegone
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2005
          • 6099

          Hehe pretty good technique. The way I did it on both my trigger guard kits was first to place the trigger guard (with the rivets heads facing down) in the vice. Even a wood one would work. Made sure to put something soft like a cloth on both sides of the vice so that the trigger guard doesn't get scratched up. Used some channel locks and peel off the piece of steel left by the demilling. Going slowly it comes off. Than I grinded the rivets flush to the selector stop, making sure not to take much off the selector stop, because well...that will be really really bad! Than I centered punched the rivets from that side that is flushed. Than I used a drill (a 7/8ths), making sure not to drive deep just enough on top so that you can place a punch in the hole made. It will make things helluava lot easier (plus your punch won't drift off). On a side note...you can try the cold/hot method here. It makes it really easy to take out the rivets. I just experimented to see if it would work...and certainly does. Freeze the trigger guard a bit (for like 10 mins or so) take it out and punch it out. Don't know why, but the rivets came out easier...well anyways...just make sure you put the trigger guard on something solid to punch out the rivets from the flush side. It will make things very easy. For the back rivet I did the same, just made sure to keep it still and punched it out. I used a piece of solid steel (actually I used one of these)



          to hold the trigger guard still and punch out the back rivet. Thats it! Not that hard once you get the hang of it.

          That socket is a pretty good idea and will work. I did something similar.


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          • #6
            wayoutwest
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2003
            • 727

            Pretty simillar way, grind all the rivit heads flat



            center punch them, drill them out small, if needed go up a bit size or 2. I have had several that actually fell out once drilled.



            seperate the TG form the selector lever and receiver stub

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            • #7
              morepoop4u
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 2185

              The tools I used were a vise, a sock, pliers, flat head screwdriver, 8mm socket, punch, 3lb sledge, and a dremil.

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