H&K L85A2 CA VARIANT?

[KVlineman]

anybody know if there is a l85a2 rifle variant for california.'or maybe any kits i can build a semi auto version with.
ive always loved the look of this rifle and would love to have one,even if its semi auto.

[crazychinaman]

rifle

Are you talking about the french bullpup rifle.?Somebody imported a about 2 dozen parts kit form in the 80's.He had 1 receiver made up and that was the last I heard of it.They way the new ATF is doing to stuff coming in country.I doubt you will ever see them in the US again.But then you never know..............

[KVlineman]

Are you talking about the french bullpup rifle.?Somebody imported a about 2 dozen parts kit form in the 80's.He had 1 receiver made up and that was the last I heard of it.They way the new ATF is doing to stuff coming in country.I doubt you will ever see them in the US again.But then you never know..............

yes that would be it.im sure that batch of 2 dozen didnt last long at all.
well if anybody heres anything or knows anyone let me know.

[MrPlink]

Wtf are you guys talking about?

The L85 bullpup HK worked is Brittish.

The French model you mention is the FAMAS. CAI brought a few in way back when, hyper rare.

There are no civi L85s that I know of

[KVlineman]

french or british all the same to me,foreign and not american.i just know that i would like to buy or build one.

[tiger222]

there are a few roaming, 10 years ago they were going for $20-30K! for a factory rifle with accessories. Best bet (insert laugh now) is an airsoft with a 10/22 in it.

[luckystrike]

french HK L85..... its not made by HK, its enfield if I remember correctly, and english. No semi-auto L85 exists for civilian ownership and never will, the english would rather melt them down and dump them into the ocean before "allowing an atrocity such as letting them 'fall into the public hands'"

plus they have the rep for being a POS, if you want a unique bulpup then get the new tavor or a nice MSAR

[Quiet]

The SA-80 system was the last firearm designed and produced at the UK Royal Small Arms Factory (RSAF). After RSAF was shut down, production and upkeep eventually feel to BAE Systems.

The SA-80 system (L-85A1 & L-86A1) had performance issues (bad reliability, parts failures, etc).

Early 2000, BAE Systems (owned H&K) and tasked H&K to improve on the SA-80 system. H&K developed several upgrades which which improved the reliability of the SA-80 system (L-85A2 & L-86A2).

Even though they were improved, UK MOD special forces units still refuse to use them and use M-4 Carbine type rifles instead.

[MrPlink]

french HK L85..... its not made by HK, its enfield if I remember correctly, and english. No semi-auto L85 exists for civilian ownership and never will, the english would rather melt them down and dump them into the ocean before "allowing an atrocity such as letting them 'fall into the public hands'"

plus they have the rep for being a POS, if you want a unique bulpup then get the new tavor or a nice MSAR

More or less correct.

HK was brought in to "fix" the L85 some time ago and supposedly it is an acceptable firearm now. This is kinda what HK was hoping they could do for our MIL with the HK416. Seems they have given up on trying to innovate and taken to "fixing" things. FWIW supposedly Brit SF guys still dont like the L85 and opt for AR15/M16 based rifles instead.


I have read the FAMAS has some issues as well, something about being finicky with ammo and having issues with std 5.56nato rounds. I still think it is the coolest looking of all the Mil pattern bullpups though.

But odds are very unlikely we will see either one brought in for civi purposes.

The AUG remains the most recognizable and iconic mil style bullpup, and I doubt the L85 or Famas could keep up with the more modern offerings such as the F2000 or Tavor.

And do not quote me on this, but I am relatively sure about hearing about one of the old CAI Famas rifles being sold for somewhere in the 40k range about 3 or 4 years ago.

[ptoguy2002]

There are a few semi auto L85s in the US from what I've read. There was a name your price WTB ad on Sturm several years back, and IIRC, a sell ad too. They won't be HK, HK only upgraded the Brits L85s, didn't make them, and that was way after the imports came in, so you won't ever see an HK one.
L85=/=famas. Totally different.

The semi auto famas is called just "mas" and is banned my name in CA on the roberti Roos list:

[defcon]

there are a few roaming, 10 years ago they were going for $20-30K! for a factory rifle with accessories. Best bet (insert laugh now) is an airsoft with a 10/22 in it.

well its not a 10/22

$250 .22LR version using a Marlin 60.

[deadcoyote]

This thread has a lot of neat information. I just wanted to add I watched a documentary on the French foreign legion a few years back. They had guys using both the FAMAS and M16A4 with optics. Some guys said they preferred the AR pattern rifle for longer range and complained that the cyclic rate on the FAMAS was too high to be effectively used. Also, they showed the FAMAS being cleaned after range where they were all broken down and put on racks in a commercial dish washing machine then put back together. They said it highlighted how good the weapons were, that all the parts could be mix n match put back together. Seemed a little odd to me.

[tiger222]

well its not a 10/22

$250 .22LR version using a Marlin 60.

Defcon - looks great - what are the details?
Thx

[defcon]

1st test fire to see if it worked. FTF/FTE issues with the Marlin 60 ejector wire. fixed it so will be doing a 2nd test fire to see if i can cycle 17 rounds consistently.

got a lot of great compliments on it because they've never seen one in person. even a veteran British guy was blown away because he thought it was real and was asking me if he can buy it off me because he used one when he was in service. i told him no.