Daniel Defense vs. JPRifle forearms

[SDlocal]

All,

Help me decide between these two forearms my budget is 300.00. Which means I can get a midlength DD and nothing else or I can get the JP rifle length forearms. rails for front site and flashlight, and one of their tactical comps. This is for my general purpose ar that currently has a YHM midlenght that I am not happy with.

My rifle has a 16 in barrel and I mount my eotech and rear buis on the receiver rail....

What would you choose...and why....

[thmpr]

If you will convert your AR to a piston system, get the DDs. But if not, I would prefer JP.

[FlyingPen]

Why not a LaRue?

[SDlocal]

Interesting comment...I have an osprey system on order...you think it will fit better in the DD?

[C.G.]

Those two are the ones that I like. If you think you will be using your rails a lot, then DD; if not, JP V-Tac.
I have a JP V-Tac on my Grendel and like it a lot.

[SDlocal]

Why not a LaRue?

While larue is top notch both the DD and JP offer continuous rail options and la rue does not...I love my larue eotech mount though!

[ar15barrels]

While larue is top notch both the DD and JP offer continuous rail options and la rue does not...

You should have heard the phone call a couple years ago where I told Mark LaRue that he should make his handguards have a piece hanging off the back to fill that gap in the rails...
He said something like it would be about as useful as tits on a boar hog.
I told him that's not the point, the point is people buy based on looks.

Functionality is the same because you can't mount a sight between the receiver and the handguard rail anyways.
That top rail is pretty much wasted if you are not running a laser designator or a rail-mount front sight.

[SDlocal]

You should have heard the phone call a couple years ago where I told Mark LaRue that he should make his handguards have a piece hanging off the back to fill that gap in the rails...
He said something like it would be about as useful as tits on a boar hog.
I told him that's not the point, the point is people buy based on looks.

Functionality is the same because you can't mount a sight between the receiver and the handguard rail anyways.
That top rail is pretty much wasted if you are not running a laser designator or a rail-mount front sight.

Randall I do indeed have a rail-mount front sight as back up to me eotech and I do like it for the look...what can I say!

On a tangent I also have an osprey system or order....any guesstimations on it not fitting under the JP or DD? I have a standard govt profile barrell

[thmpr]

Interesting comment...I have an osprey system on order...you think it will fit better in the DD?

All gas pistons systems out there will not fit the JP HGs.

[ar15barrels]

I also have an osprey system or order....any guesstimations on it not fitting under the JP or DD? I have a standard govt profile barrell

I doubt it would fit under a DD or Larue.
More likely to fit under a JP based on it's "wrap around" shape.

[jandmtv]

dont mean to thread jack, but here is a question that i think has never come up about the gas piston AR's or retro kits. since the piston system is sitting on top of the barrel with nothing to support it except the gas block which is attached to the barrel, wont the operation of the piston null the benefits of a free floating barrel and effect the accuracy of the rifle?

i would imagine the piston hitting the the bolt carrier would put a some type stress on the FSB and the barrel.

is anything i said above right?

[ar15barrels]

dont mean to thread jack, but here is a question that i think has never come up about the gas piston AR's or retro kits. since the piston system is sitting on top of the barrel with nothing to support it except the gas block which is attached to the barrel, wont the operation of the piston null the benefits of a free floating barrel and effect the accuracy of the rifle?

i would imagine the piston hitting the the bolt carrier would put a some type stress on the FSB and the barrel.

Mostly.
You still get the benefit of mounting a sling to a freefloat handguard instead of the barrel.

Yes, the piston hits the barrel and deflects it downwards.
This usually shows up on target as vertical stringing.

[jandmtv]

Thanks Randall, I thought so.

[jandmtv]

So in other words, on a combat rifle, there are certain benefits to a gas piston system.

But on a precision rig, its worthless, and actually a bad idea?

[ar15barrels]

But on a precision rig, its worthless, and actually a bad idea?

A piston system is a bad idea on a precision rig.