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  • mikecro1
    Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 240

    Obsessive compulsive stupidity when cleaning ar15's

    ...This might be a silly question....but can any of you guys who own an OLL AR15 upper see the gas port hole when you look inside your barrel?

    I really felt like a noob today...

    ...the funny thing is, I was cleaning my barrel and I kept trying to clean this dark looking debris (looked like a dark hair) inside my barrel using my ar15 rod guide, dewey coated rod, patches, and brush...and even my .223 boresnake...but the darn thing wouldn't come out...

    ...then I felt likethrowing up and hitting my self with a hammer when I realized that It was nothing more than the sillhouette of my gas port hole

    ....oh well....at least the inside of my barrel now looks like a mirror...

    I HATE MYSELF SOMETIMES
    Last edited by mikecro1; 05-20-2008, 8:07 PM.
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  • #2
    jandmtv
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2007
    • 5800

    LOL!!!, now thats some funny ****
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    • #3
      PolishMike
      Calguns Addict
      • Nov 2007
      • 6034

      hahah haven't done that on an AR but do it all the time on my AK pistol.
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      • #4
        DrunkSkunk
        Banned
        • Mar 2008
        • 2399

        lmao. that's awesome.

        here's how i clean my ar - spray with clp.






        what, you're waiting for more? no, that's it.

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        • #5
          ar15barrels
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 56963

          I can see the gas port just fine.
          I have a bore scope.

          Here is a crappy picture of a sectioned barrel showing how the gas port wears on a carbine gas system.



          The bottom hole in this picture is where the front sight base was pinned to the barrel.
          It's NOT part of the gas porting.
          Last edited by ar15barrels; 05-20-2008, 11:52 PM.
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          • #6
            duenor
            Vendor/Retailer
            • Mar 2007
            • 4617

            yee haw!
            something I said is in someone's sig line!

            dude, you totally made my evening.
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            • #7
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 56963

              Originally posted by duenor
              yee haw!
              something I said is in someone's sig line.
              That's been there like almost a week dude.
              I change out my sigline whenever I see something better or when it gets stale.

              There's a guy with one of my quotes in his sigline.
              I trip out every time I see it.

              "There's no need to settle for less if you have the means to make it better" or something like that.
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              • #8
                ironcross
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2008
                • 726

                I know how it feels, but not that far. Its like a brand new car you want it spot less. For that matter anything new. But at least its clean
                I'm not a LEO nor Lawyer, none of what I say can nor should be used as legal advice.

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                • #9
                  rkt88edmo
                  Reptile&Samurai Moderator
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 10057

                  Originally posted by ar15barrels
                  I can see the gas port just fine.
                  I have a bore scope.

                  Here is a crappy picture of a sectioned barrel showing how the gas port wears on a carbine gas system.



                  The bottom hole in this picture is where the front sight base was pinned to the barrel.
                  It's NOT part of the gas porting.
                  Interesting that the wear all takes place fore of the port - I would have thought it would be a little more symmetrical but I am sure it makes perfect sense to people who understand fluid/gas dynamics
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                  • #10
                    J_Rock
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 2097

                    Originally posted by rkt88edmo
                    Interesting that the wear all takes place fore of the port - I would have thought it would be a little more symmetrical but I am sure it makes perfect sense to people who understand fluid/gas dynamics
                    I;m guessing bullet direction is from left to right in the pic correct?

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                    • #11
                      ar15barrels
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 56963

                      Originally posted by rkt88edmo
                      Interesting that the wear all takes place fore of the port - I would have thought it would be a little more symmetrical but I am sure it makes perfect sense to people who understand fluid/gas dynamics
                      The bullet and the gas go flying past the gas port.
                      The expanding gas then flows back into the gas port.
                      The gas is abrasive and wears on the edge of the port.
                      I have seen them with a lot more wear than is pictured.

                      The wear is NOT a round hole.
                      It's more like a slit you would see created by water flowing over the edge of a bank.
                      It's a narrow and deep cut.

                      LMT is smart.
                      On the MRP barrels, they just drill the gas port at a 45 degree angle so the gas will not enlarge the port over time.

                      Last edited by ar15barrels; 05-21-2008, 12:02 AM.
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                      AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
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                      Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
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                      Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                      • #12
                        ar15barrels
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 56963

                        Originally posted by J_Rock
                        I;m guessing bullet direction is from left to right in the pic correct?
                        Correct.
                        Randall Rausch

                        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                        Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                        Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                        • #13
                          mike22ca
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 1065

                          I hate to admit it, but I totally did that with my Saiga 12. I thought I damaged the chrome lining because I shot too many slugs out of it LOL. then I actually started to think about it and was like wait.... doesnt the gas port come into play right about there? lol

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                          • #14
                            domokun
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 3525

                            So what's the "fix" for this issue when it occurs? How does it affect the accuracy and functionality of the rifle?


                            Originally posted by ar15barrels
                            The bullet and the gas go flying past the gas port.
                            The expanding gas then flows back into the gas port.
                            The gas is abrasive and wears on the edge of the port.
                            I have seen them with a lot more wear than is pictured.

                            The wear is NOT a round hole.
                            It's more like a slit you would see created by water flowing over the edge of a bank.
                            It's a narrow and deep cut.

                            LMT is smart.
                            On the MRP barrels, they just drill the gas port at a 45 degree angle so the gas will not enlarge the port over time.

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                            • #15
                              ar15barrels
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 56963

                              Originally posted by domokun
                              So what's the "fix" for this issue when it occurs? How does it affect the accuracy and functionality of the rifle?
                              When the port wears, you need to either reduce the gas or increase the weight of the buffer/carrier train.

                              Most common fix is to increase buffer weight as round count increases.
                              Go up a notch in buffer weight about every 5K rounds on carbine gas system barrels.
                              Randall Rausch

                              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                              Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                              Most work performed while-you-wait.

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