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  • newguy83
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    • Nov 2012
    • 299

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    Arkangel
    Veteran Member
    • May 2010
    • 4458

    What do you want the device to do?

    Reduce flash signature?

    Mitigate muzzle climb?

    And yes, there are combinations of both... off the top of my head the PWS FSC and AAC Breakout come to mind.

    Which one is best is a personal preference.
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    • #3
      FourLoko
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 2426

      is your search button broken newguy?

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      • #4
        M3thodBombZ
        Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 412

        Originally posted by Arkangel
        What do you want the device to do?

        Reduce flash signature?

        Mitigate muzzle climb?

        And yes, there are combinations of both... off the top of my head the PWS FSC and AAC Breakout come to mind.

        Which one is best is a personal preference.
        Flash Hider- reduces flash (i.e) vortex flash hider or your standard A2 birdcage

        muzzle brake- significantly reduces muzzle climb and felt recoil (i.e) surefire mb556k or PWS FSC556


        As archangel mentioned, it all depends on the application you wanna run your gun for.

        compensator- does a little of both mentioned above (i.e) battle comp or BCM compensator mod1

        compensator -
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        • #5
          pistolero805
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 944

          I'm not a fan of brakes on a 5.56 but Surefire MB556k gets my vote.

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          • #6
            junior40er
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 3315

            muzzle break is what makes it loud isnt it? Those thing hurt my ears.
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            • #7
              kusoiyaro
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 90

              Originally posted by junior40er
              muzzle break is what makes it loud isnt it? Those thing hurt my ears.
              Not any louder than say .308 rounds. My SJC Titan brake is probably the loudest brake out there, but I didn't think it was all that bad. I really enjoyed the fact that recoil and muzzle climb is pretty much non-existent. That being said, it is tough shooting next to someone with a Surefire/SJC/etc brake not because of volume, but rather, the gasses that are pushed to the sides of said shooting.

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              • #8
                Speedpower
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 2238

                What I considered the best is the DPMS Miculek type Muzzle brake, priced below $40.00 and it works great, felt recoil is gone and no muzzle rise when shooting it out of my 18" mid-lenght gas system AR15!

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                • #9
                  Speedpower
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 2238

                  Originally posted by newguy83
                  i just got an lmt 5.56 and was looking at some muzzle brakes/compensators/flash hiders

                  which is preferable? a muzzle brake or compensator? is there an attachment that is both a brake and a flash supressor?

                  as far as compensators go, which is considered "the best"?

                  what about muzzle brakes?
                  By the way, MUZZLE BRAKE is a COMPENSATOR!

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                  • #10
                    Josh3239
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 9191

                    I suggest the battlecomp. On a 16" or longer barrel and a tuned gas system/right sized buffer you will experience no recoil and no muzzle rise. It's flash hiding ability is comparable to the A2, and size is the same. Additionally, it tends to not increase the perceived blast as much as more common brakes, particularly those with huge ports at the 3 and 9 o o'clock.

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                    • #11
                      NapalmCheese
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 5953

                      Originally posted by kusoiyaro
                      Not any louder than say .308 rounds. My SJC Titan brake is probably the loudest brake out there, but I didn't think it was all that bad. I really enjoyed the fact that recoil and muzzle climb is pretty much non-existent. That being said, it is tough shooting next to someone with a Surefire/SJC/etc brake not because of volume, but rather, the gasses that are pushed to the sides of said shooting.
                      I'd say it's not any louder than shooting a .308 in a short barrel. .308 in an 18 or 20 inch barrel is really loud.

                      You're average hunting gun .308 with a 22 inch barrel is not terribly loud. A braked AR is louder.

                      Some people will chime in "Eff the people next to you, they are at a gun range, there's going to be loud noises, they can suck it up". I figure if I'm at the range I don't need a brake so I run a linear compensator (Levang for the cheap, Noveske KX3 for the spendy, Troy claymore for the less spendy). This way my gun isn't terribly loud and I don't disturb the people next to me anymore than necessary. I should have just gotten a target crown on the barrel (I'm not sure the linear compensators do much for longer barrel lengths anyway).

                      If you're in a class or doing something more interesting than plinking on a static range then the increase in noise might be worth it to you. If you're sitting on a bench with a 14.5 inch AR with the SuperMegaLoud (tm) muzzle brake that makes your gun recoil like a .22LR, then I suggest you just get a .22LR upper. I'm not sure why you would need to mitigate muzzle rise and recoil on a static range with a minimum 1 second between shots(queue the "I need to watch my splash through my scope" crowd).

                      $0.02
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                      • #12
                        Justintoxicated
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 3836

                        A braked AR is WAY louder than a 308 without one, at least to the people around you. It can also affect their aim and hearing. Last 4 trips I got stuck next to someone with a 223 brake and I think I lost some hearing, I need to invest in extra protection in case the guy next to me pulls out a braked AR. of course I can't shoot nearly as well with giant earmuffs on, screws up my cheek weld. AR's make a crack like noise which is probably why it is so bad, maybe it is not technically way louder but it will make your ears ring if your next to one without double protection on. A non braked 30-06 or 308 not so much, they are not annoying at all. I hate when people put them on ARs, although if they were running 3 gun or something like that I could understand it. I honestly think most people at the range shooting off a bench just do it to piss people off. You will be sitting their testing your reloads at 200-300 yard, trying to get 1" groups and the guy next to you starts shooting a braked AR when moves your reticle 3-6" off target each time they fire.

                        That said I do have a brake on my 308 so from now on I will bring that with me for vengeance. It is nice to see your hits at 500+ yards though.
                        Last edited by Justintoxicated; 06-04-2013, 10:01 AM.

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                        • #13
                          M3thodBombZ
                          Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 412

                          Originally posted by NapalmCheese
                          I'd say it's not any louder than shooting a .308 in a short barrel. .308 in an 18 or 20 inch barrel is really loud.

                          You're average hunting gun .308 with a 22 inch barrel is not terribly loud. A braked AR is louder.

                          Some people will chime in "Eff the people next to you, they are at a gun range, there's going to be loud noises, they can suck it up". I figure if I'm at the range I don't need a brake so I run a linear compensator (Levang for the cheap, Noveske KX3 for the spendy, Troy claymore for the less spendy). This way my gun isn't terribly loud and I don't disturb the people next to me anymore than necessary. I should have just gotten a target crown on the barrel (I'm not sure the linear compensators do much for longer barrel lengths anyway).

                          If you're in a class or doing something more interesting than plinking on a static range then the increase in noise might be worth it to you. If you're sitting on a bench with a 14.5 inch AR with the SuperMegaLoud (tm) muzzle brake that makes your gun recoil like a .22LR, then I suggest you just get a .22LR upper. I'm not sure why you would need to mitigate muzzle rise and recoil on a static range with a minimum 1 second between shots(queue the "I need to watch my splash through my scope" crowd).

                          $0.02
                          I don't go to ranges because of the range rules. I like moving and shooting, hence why I go shoot at recreational areas. Me personally, I like putting multiple rounds on target as fast and as accurate as possible, and a brake makes that much easier. I run a BCM 14.5 midlength with a spikes ST-T2 buffer and a surefire brake. It may not give you the excitement of lets say, a Cheytac? But it shoots like you've never dreamed. It's like an angel kissed you for the first time.
                          Thinkers before shooters -Travis Haley

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                          • #14
                            kusoiyaro
                            Junior Member
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 90

                            Originally posted by NapalmCheese
                            I'd say it's not any louder than shooting a .308 in a short barrel. .308 in an 18 or 20 inch barrel is really loud.

                            You're average hunting gun .308 with a 22 inch barrel is not terribly loud. A braked AR is louder.

                            Some people will chime in "Eff the people next to you, they are at a gun range, there's going to be loud noises, they can suck it up". I figure if I'm at the range I don't need a brake so I run a linear compensator (Levang for the cheap, Noveske KX3 for the spendy, Troy claymore for the less spendy). This way my gun isn't terribly loud and I don't disturb the people next to me anymore than necessary. I should have just gotten a target crown on the barrel (I'm not sure the linear compensators do much for longer barrel lengths anyway).

                            If you're in a class or doing something more interesting than plinking on a static range then the increase in noise might be worth it to you. If you're sitting on a bench with a 14.5 inch AR with the SuperMegaLoud (tm) muzzle brake that makes your gun recoil like a .22LR, then I suggest you just get a .22LR upper. I'm not sure why you would need to mitigate muzzle rise and recoil on a static range with a minimum 1 second between shots(queue the "I need to watch my splash through my scope" crowd).

                            $0.02
                            I have a braked .308 with a 24" barrel and a 16" braked AR and I don't think there is much of a difference. I've got brakes on my rifles because it is what I like and I figured if I am paying for it, then I may as well enjoy it.

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                            • #15
                              TheExiled
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 2933

                              I run one of these for fast follow-up shooting/killing muzzle climb


                              I run one of these on a bench gun - loud as hell, recoil of a .22lr


                              Ive heard that the cheapo ebay or amazon versions of the second one work just as well, and I dont see why they wouldnt. If youre looking to kill recoil of that big beast of a .223 I dont think you can beat that
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