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  • newguy83
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    • Nov 2012
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    The Paper Pimp
    Banned
    • Mar 2013
    • 967

    1) 55 or 62gr ammo is fine to use.
    2) I would avoid using steel cased ammo and go for Lake City or Winchester White Box ammo (or any other NC brass ammo)
    3) your rifle can use both 556 and 223 (if 556 is stamped on the receiver/barrel).
    4) ammo has been hovering around the $1/round but has been coming down
    5)what kind of defense? 556/223 is not a good home defense round unless you live in a sparsely populated area
    6)an accu-wedge. they're cheap and clean up any slop/wobble between upper/lower. maybe an AFG or grip upfront?
    7)I use an Otis cleaning kit for mine. avoid any solvents that may damage the finish
    8)do: break the barrel in and clean your weapon after each range trip. do: practice safe operating procedures and read the owner's manual
    9)practice and become familiar with the AR platform. all piston driven ARs are proprietary (just something to keep in mind).

    enjoy

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    • #3
      pluke the 2
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 1926

      Look no further noob!

      Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear.


      Welcome!

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      • #4
        pluke the 2
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 1926

        Basically just look at AR15s FAQs. You'll be reading for a few years before your finished.

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        • #5
          BHPFan
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2007
          • 2264

          Originally posted by The Paper Pimp
          1) 55 or 62gr ammo is fine to use.
          2) I would avoid using steel cased ammo and go for Lake City or Winchester White Box ammo (or any other NC brass ammo)
          3) your rifle can use both 556 and 223 (if 556 is stamped on the receiver/barrel).
          4) ammo has been hovering around the $1/round but has been coming down
          5)what kind of defense? 556/223 is not a good home defense round unless you live in a sparsely populated area
          6)an accu-wedge. they're cheap and clean up any slop/wobble between upper/lower. maybe an AFG or grip upfront?
          7)I use an Otis cleaning kit for mine. avoid any solvents that may damage the finish
          8)do: break the barrel in and clean your weapon after each range trip. do: practice safe operating procedures and read the owner's manual
          9)practice and become familiar with the AR platform. all piston driven ARs are proprietary (just something to keep in mind).

          enjoy
          This.

          Also, since we're dealing with a Gas Piston system, I would invest in a PWS buffer tube for AR's (not the model for 416) for carrier tilt prevention. Other than that, the LMT is Good To Go.
          They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
          ~ Benjamin Franklin

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          • #6
            newguy83
            Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 299

            Originally posted by BHPFan
            This.

            Also, since we're dealing with a Gas Piston system, I would invest in a PWS buffer tube for AR's (not the model for 416) for carrier tilt prevention. Other than that, the LMT is Good To Go.
            what do you mean by carrier tilt prevention? how does a pistol system create that?


            and how does a PWS buffer tube prevent it?

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            • #7
              DanHuuN
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2008
              • 2064

              LMT pistons are trash. You should regift it to me. Lol. I've have a 16" piston and 12" piston pistol. Love them. I've always been a fan of Lmt aside from their weight.

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              • #8
                atolax25
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Jun 2012
                • 768

                Originally posted by The Paper Pimp
                5)what kind of defense? 556/223 is not a good home defense round unless you live in a sparsely populated area
                Isn't 5.56 tested to have lower penetration than 00 buck and pistol caliber rounds?

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                • #9
                  The Paper Pimp
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 967

                  maybe frangible ammo, but I wouldn't use that either. I prefer 00 buck or 357

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                  • #10
                    newguy83
                    Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 299

                    Originally posted by The Paper Pimp
                    1) 55 or 62gr ammo is fine to use.
                    2) I would avoid using steel cased ammo and go for Lake City or Winchester White Box ammo (or any other NC brass ammo)
                    3) your rifle can use both 556 and 223 (if 556 is stamped on the receiver/barrel).
                    4) ammo has been hovering around the $1/round but has been coming down
                    5)what kind of defense? 556/223 is not a good home defense round unless you live in a sparsely populated area
                    6)an accu-wedge. they're cheap and clean up any slop/wobble between upper/lower. maybe an AFG or grip upfront?
                    7)I use an Otis cleaning kit for mine. avoid any solvents that may damage the finish
                    8)do: break the barrel in and clean your weapon after each range trip. do: practice safe operating procedures and read the owner's manual
                    9)practice and become familiar with the AR platform. all piston driven ARs are proprietary (just something to keep in mind).

                    enjoy
                    so you say 55-62 is fine, but in the ar15.com link it says:

                    Twist So, rifle barrels have "rifling" in them. These are lands (high spots) and grooves (low spots) which run the length of the barrel. The lands engage a bullet and give it spin as it travels down the barrel, just like a quarterback puts spin on a football. The rate at which the bullet spins is determined by its speed as it travels down the barrel, and the rate at which the lands twist in the barrel. The twist is listed as "one in x" were x is the number of inches the bullet must travel down the barrel to complete a single revolution. Early ARs had 1:12 twist (1 revolution every 12 inches). However, as bullet design evolved, bullets became heavier and longer. Longer, heavier projectiles require faster twists in order to stabilize them. If they do not spin fast enough, they wobble as they go downrange, and you lose accuracy. If all you want to do is launch 45 grain bullets at prairie dogs with your rifle, you can get away with a 1:12 twist. Actually, the 1:12 will probably work up to 55 grain bullets. Most ARs sold these days are 1:9 or faster twists. The 1:9 will stabilize 55-69 grain bullets, and may sometimes stabilize 75s depending on the rifle. A 1:8 or 1:7 will stabilize 77 grain and up bullets. This is important if you intend to shoot at very long ranges where the ballistic coefficient of these bullets is really needed, or if you want to shoot the heavier Black Hills or Hornady ammunition which performs near or at the top for self defense. You need to decide what you want to do with your rifle from the start so you know what twist you will need.

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                    • #11
                      DanHuuN
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 2064

                      Originally posted by atolax25
                      Isn't 5.56 tested to have lower penetration than 00 buck and pistol caliber rounds?
                      Whoa?!?!?!

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                      • #12
                        Sniper3142
                        Veteran Member
                        • May 2004
                        • 2579

                        Originally posted by newguy83
                        so you say 55-62 is fine, but in the ar15.com link it says:
                        Your LMT MRP can safely and accurately handle just about ANY grain .223/5.56mm round.

                        From 40 grain TAP all the way up to 80 grain (which is too long to fit into the magazine well is has to be shot one at a time).

                        A new LMT MRP Piston usually comes with their enhanced bolt carrier which minimizes carrier tilt (so no need to change anything out).

                        Enjoy
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                        • #13
                          BHPFan
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 2264

                          Originally posted by newguy83
                          what do you mean by carrier tilt prevention? how does a pistol system create that?


                          and how does a PWS buffer tube prevent it?
                          Do a google on "gas piston carrier tilt" and you will get a lot of links that can explain it better.

                          Of course, it's my recommendation and it's your choice to take it or leave it.
                          They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
                          ~ Benjamin Franklin

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                          • #14
                            newguy83
                            Member
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 299

                            Originally posted by The Paper Pimp
                            maybe frangible ammo, but I wouldn't use that either. I prefer 00 buck or 357
                            yea theres no way that 5.56 penetrates more than 00 buck.

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                            • #15
                              kens
                              Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 249

                              target 223 and 556 is not 1 dollar a round. even LC 556 is not a dollar a round. If it is, you should not be buying it.

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