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  • #31
    Cobrarlc
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    • Jan 2006
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    • #32
      Army GI
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 4284

      Originally posted by uclaplinker
      Don't buy a SOCOM. 16" for 308 makes little sense, especially if you already have a 5.56
      I wasn't really leaning towards a SOCOM. And you're right, 16" 308 doesn't seem like a good idea (for me) considering I want to shoot at range with this.

      I'm more heavily leaning towards the M1A; what is the difference between the Loaded, the National Match, and the Super Match? Also, does it make a difference if the match barrel is stainless vs carbon steel?
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      • #33
        aplinker
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        • Feb 2007
        • 16762

        Originally posted by Army GI
        I wasn't really leaning towards a SOCOM. And you're right, 16" 308 doesn't seem like a good idea (for me) considering I want to shoot at range with this.

        I'm more heavily leaning towards the M1A; what is the difference between the Loaded, the National Match, and the Super Match? Also, does it make a difference if the match barrel is stainless vs carbon steel?
        Yes, it matters. Stainless is the way to go with an M1A, as they don't even offer a chrome lined barrel. You'll get better accuracy, as well.

        If you want accuracy levels of the NM and Super Match, get an AR10- for less money. They add in different sights, heavier barrels, different rifling and with the Super Match an upgraded receiver/stock.

        Again, the only real option, IMHO, is the stainless loaded. Again, the accuracy of an AR10 will still be better.

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        • #34
          Army GI
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          • Apr 2007
          • 4284

          Thanks guys, I appreciate the help!
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          • #35
            harlot
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            • Apr 2008
            • 149

            As far as M1As go the loaded is the best overall deal, has the same barrel as the national match so its very accurate for an auto-loader. Like ucla said go with stainless, it looks better anyway. M1As are kinda expensive though, if you want to save money or get something more accurate then go with a 700.

            So depending on whether you want a bolt or a semi first I say get a 700P/XCR/SPS or an M1A loaded, then get the other next year. The first 308 I bought was a 700XCR tactical. I was planning on getting an M1A loaded or NM next, but since the Remington is so accurate and none of the M1As could come close to it so I went with a socom 16 instead. Its really a niche gun but don't overlook it because of concerns about the 16" barrel's performance. And just to tell you what I think of the AR-10, the next .308 semi I get is either a FAL or an M1A loaded.
            Last edited by harlot; 05-09-2008, 5:02 PM.

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            • #36
              aplinker
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              • Feb 2007
              • 16762

              For the price of an M1A you could put together an excellent 700 - like an SPS Varmint in an AICS chassis.

              Just something to think about.

              Originally posted by harlot
              As far as M1As go the loaded is the best overall deal, has the same barrel as the national match so its very accurate for an auto-loader. Like ucla said go with stainless, it looks better anyway. M1As are kinda expensive though, if you want to save money or get something more accurate then go with a 700.

              So depending on whether you want a bolt or a semi first I say get a 700P/XCR/SPS or an M1A loaded, then get the other next year. The first 308 I bought was a 700XCR tactical. I was planning on getting an M1A loaded or NM next, but since the Remington is so accurate and none of the M1As could come close to it so I went with a socom 16 instead. Its really a niche gun, but don't overlook it because of the 16" barrel. And just to tell you what I think of the AR-10, the next .308 semi I get is either a FAL or an M1A loaded.

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              • #37
                C.G.
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                • Oct 2005
                • 8205

                Originally posted by moulton
                FYI, When I was at Front Sight I talked to the rifle instructor and he does not recommend ar-10's. He has never had an ar-10 complete the precision rifle course in all of his years. Plenty of people have brought them but they have always had mafunctions causing the shooters to use another rifle.
                Were these actual AR-10s or LR-308s or Bushmaster .308s?
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                • #38
                  C.G.
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                  • Oct 2005
                  • 8205

                  Originally posted by Army GI
                  Looks like the most votes goes to the M1A so far.
                  A good reason for this is that from 2000 until recently there were no legal AR-10 (or DPMS) lowers available in PRK.
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                  • #39
                    HUTCH 7.62
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                    • Aug 2006
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                    JLD PTR-91 or A FAL the rest are too Mainstream. plus the FAL will out shot the 700 and the M1a provided the fal has a 21" barrel.
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                    • #40
                      TurboFall
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                      • Aug 2007
                      • 319

                      Originally posted by HUTCH 7.62
                      plus the FAL will out shot the 700 and the M1a provided the fal has a 21" barrel.
                      ...what?

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                      • #41
                        harlot
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                        • Apr 2008
                        • 149

                        Originally posted by HUTCH 7.62
                        JLD PTR-91 or A FAL the rest are too Mainstream. plus the FAL will out shot the 700 and the M1a provided the fal has a 21" barrel.

                        The FAL is a great weapon but regardless of the barrel its never going to be as accurate as a Remington 700.
                        Last edited by harlot; 05-10-2008, 3:02 AM.

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                        • #42
                          ar15barrels
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                          Originally posted by HUTCH 7.62
                          the FAL will out shot the 700 and the M1a provided the fal has a 21" barrel.
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                          • #43
                            aplinker
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                            • Feb 2007
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                            Originally posted by HUTCH 7.62
                            JLD PTR-91 or A FAL the rest are too Mainstream. plus the FAL will out shot the 700 and the M1a provided the fal has a 21" barrel.

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                            • #44
                              draconianruler
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 1590

                              I'm not a fan of the M1A. I say get a .308 AR. Also consider the FAL and PTR91. I have all three and but like my .308AR the best.
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                              • #45
                                rg_1111@yahoo.com
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                                • Feb 2003
                                • 5722

                                LMAO,

                                JLD PTR-91 or A FAL the rest are too Mainstream. plus the FAL will out shot the 700 and the M1a provided the fal has a 21" barrel.

                                That's funny stuff. On it's Best day HutcH 7.62 a FAL will NEVER out shoot a 700.

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