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  • asm_
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 743

    Do any of you actual check head space?

    Just wondering, does any of you that build your own upper actually check head space? Let's say if the head space is off, unless you own a lathe, how else could you correct the issue?

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    Donk310
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 1798

    Never checked mine.
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    • #3
      Just-in
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 2176

      Me neither. My friend did on his ar-10 cause he reloads, used all new parts on his upper and still found something out of wack stretching his brass or something like that. Makes me wonder if people who said it isn't necessary on an AR platform were to be trusted.

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      • #4
        Cary1911
        Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 298

        Never had to, but i tend to purchase complete uppers to go on my 80%'ers. Havent had one with any problems, suppose if i did then i would have had to check.
        The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first. -T.J.

        They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. -B.F.

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        • #5
          CRTguns
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2006
          • 2627

          I HATE this question...

          The headspace is not any concern o the consumer. Should not be. It is addressed during manufacture, by the folks making the barrel. The EXTENSION is installed and chamber cut to achieve a headspace within tolerance. Your bolt, believe or not is not part of the headspace in the AR. The bolt is made to a very exacting dimension... so it's always the same, or less variance than is allowed by the barrel's construction. Headspace is determined by the extension- a permanently attached extension... a very precision made part. Then the gas port is drilled at the appropriate time and distance on the barrel. Can't be changed. Once it's done, it's done. Sure, the chamber can be lengthened somewhat, but the go-no-go for the nato chamber only allows for +.003", -.000" from nominal.
          Last edited by CRTguns; 04-22-2013, 9:15 PM.

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          • #6
            2shotjoe
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2011
            • 26284

            Never have, even with 100 yo guns.

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            • #7
              G21Shooter
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 3577

              If you use quality parts, there is no need.

              Last upper I built was with a Daniel Defense BCG and Noveske barrel, if something is out of line with either of those two components I would be VERY surprised.

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              • #8
                onegtalon
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 2391

                I have a friend with HS gages... gonna check mine anyway... I've recently seen some posts about uppers with questionalble tolerances on the barrel attachment point...

                I've seen some post from THR, TFL, Snipershide, NW shooters and some other forums so I'm just gonna make sure. All the posts I've seen are about uppers purchased within between Jan-April this year. Could correlate to the recent rush of gun parts... dunno yet.

                I know when I (finally) get my barrel I'm gonna throw that in the freezer and heat up the upper to make sure it fits.. this is the recent issue lately on a small amount of uppers that are sent out.

                But - if your barrel fits fine? I wound't worry about it. If you gonna bang it with a rubber mallet? then yea check the headspace just in case.
                Laws and common sense is all up to interpretation to us humans... and guess what? Humans suck.

                Onegtalon... toooooo many hobbies man !...

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                • #9
                  sirgiles
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 2311

                  not really hard to do so why not if you reload. here is a simple way of understanding it.



                  as for the statement that this not happen to quality parts, well it did happen on my lothar walther barrel.
                  "I'm not in this world to live up to your expectations and you're not in this world to live up to mine."

                  Bruce Lee

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                  • #10
                    old-trapper
                    Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 477

                    CRT thank you for that comment.. That was about as usefull a post as i have ever seen. I have barreled a fair share of uppers and did not know the fact you just tossed out. I have sweat blood a few times with long headspaces and then a old gunsmith said to forget about it so I did. Only now do I understand the ins and outs of why...Very nice info. I was taught by the old timers to add a layer of scotch tape to the back of new or sized case and then see if it would chamber (no extractor). That is the only trick I learned on headspace. Thank you for a very useful post.
                    Last edited by old-trapper; 04-22-2013, 10:39 PM.
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                    • #11
                      asm_
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 743

                      Checking the head space is a simple deal. Now, correcting an issue is whole different ball game.

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                      • #12
                        sffred
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 2421

                        I always check headspace! Primarily on AK's and AR's. I think I'm blessed cuz I never had any ftf's or fte's on either platforms.

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                        • #13
                          ExtremeX
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 7160

                          Originally posted by sffred
                          I always check headspace! Primarily on AK's and AR's. I think I'm blessed cuz I never had any ftf's or fte's on either platforms.
                          ExtremeX

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                          • #14
                            nothinghere2c
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 2259

                            if its a pre-built complete upper that has been test fired i won't check.

                            if you build it yourself check it.

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                            • #15
                              ExtremeX
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 7160

                              Originally posted by CRTguns
                              I HATE this question...

                              The headspace is not any concern o the consumer. Should not be. It is addressed during manufacture, by the folks making the barrel. The EXTENSION is installed and chamber cut to achieve a headspace within tolerance. Your bolt, believe or not is not part of the headspace in the AR. The bolt is made to a very exacting dimension... so it's always the same, or less variance than is allowed by the barrel's construction. Headspace is determined by the extension- a permanently attached extension... a very precision made part. Then the gas port is drilled at the appropriate time and distance on the barrel. Can't be changed. Once it's done, it's done. Sure, the chamber can be lengthened somewhat, but the go-no-go for the nato chamber only allows for +.003", -.000" from nominal.
                              ExtremeX

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