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Looking to build a 80% lower 308 cal. Anyone know if this is the same lower as the ar10?
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M1A is completely different from an AR-10
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As noted above, the M1A does not have the "lower receiver/upper receiver" architecture of an AR-style rifle.
If what you are looking for is a paperless California-legal M1A semi-automatic rifle, a better method would be one of the following:
a) find a California resident selling an M1 Garand that qualifies for the 50-years-old-or-older exemption allowing Californians to transfer C&R rifles to other Californians without going through a FFL (note that this goes away January 1st 2014); or
b) Sign up with the Civilian Marksmanship Program and purchase a Garand from them, shipped direct to your door, no other paperwork.
Note that if you are set on the .308 cartridge, any .30-06 Garand can be rebarreled in .308 and converted to take M1A magazines. For example, I have been wanting to get Tim Shufflin's Mini-G transformation done to one or more of my Garands for some time now. You can end up with the paperless equivalent of a M1A Socom for about the same price as a Socom goes for nowadays.
On the other hand, you can stick with the more powerful .30-06 cartridge and use those old BAR magazines you have lying around in the garage, with a slight modification to the rifle. (Ducks to avoid Garand purists)sigpic
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First post...troll? Or just completely unaware?Comment
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Hmmm... M1-A upper mated with and AR-10 lower. You might be on to something here._______________________________________________
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Building an M1A from scratch? I hear good things about LRB.
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Nobody does 80% M14 builds. There's a lot more gunsmithing involved to get everything working perfectly than there is with ARs (that snap together) or with AKs (that are pressed and rivited together.)Comment
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The M1A is based off the M1 Garand.Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison
The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)Comment
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Kind of sort of, the M1A is based of of the M14 which is, in turn, based off of the M1 Garand but modernized to be select fire and accept an external magazine. An M1A is to an M14 as an AR15 is to an M16/M4, in other words it's a civilian version of a military service rifle."Gone to Florida to fight the Indians. Will be back when the war is over."
Colonel Commandant Archibald Henderson, USMC
in a note pinned to his office door, 1836
"We have two companies of Marines running rampant all over the northern half of this island, and three Army regiments pinned down in the southwestern corner, doing nothing. What the hell is going on?"
Gen. John W. Vessey Jr., USA, Chairman of the the Joint Chiefs of Staff
during the assault on Grenada, 1983Comment
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M1AR10 is a great rifleComment
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If you do a M1A build, it's NOT a DIY job. You can, but you need the special tools to do it and have the skills to time the barrel, lap the bolt and ream a chamber. A rough price with cast receiver such as a Fulton or SAI unit will be $1900 in parts using a M14 parts kit which has used USGI parts and $250.00 on up for labor. If you get a LRB forged unit, add about $400.00 to that.Comment
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