What are some "Short" rifles?

[ironpete]

Not SBRs but rifles actually configured close to the minimum length (26" overall).

Everything I see ends up around 30 inches. I don't really care about barrel length as long as it is legal. Does anybody make a currently available semi-auto centerfire or rimfire at 26"?

It is really just curiosity since I hear people talking about clearing rooms with SB ARs...wouldn't it make more sense to have a shorter action or stock and keep a moderate barrel length? I know this verges on the bullpup arena, but are there non-bullpup short rifles?

-pete

[PolishMike]

Uhh...


Ill be the first to say that California is 30" OAL (centerfire - not sure about rimfire)

[jandmtv]

26" is for rimfire, no?

[Quiet]

Semi-auto centerfire rifles have to have an OAL greater than 30".

All other rifles have to have an OAL greater than 26".

If rifle has a collapsable/extending/folding stock, it's measured with the stock folded/collapsed.

[aplinker]

Yup, centerfires less than 30" are AW

rimfire have to be over 26"

That's why they're all over 30"

Did you think no one would've done something about it if it were possible?

[railroader]

http://shortrifles.com/ Short enough? I actually think it's probably shorter than 30". Bullet button anyone? I have shot matches with the guy who designed it. Mark

[aplinker]

http://shortrifles.com/ Short enough? I actually think it's probably shorter than 30". Bullet button anyone? I have shot matches with the guy who designed it. Mark

Bullet button doesn't supersede the 30" rule. They're separate. Length isn't a "feature."

[ironpete]

Those are some short rifles...learn something new every day.

Sorry, I did forget about that darn California law of 30" minimum on centerfire rifles.

I was also interested rimfires. Even though I do want a GSG-5, more for the fun, small, plinker attributes than the MP5 look. It just doesn't seem small or convenient enough for camping, plinking and the such. Even my trusty 10/22 is 36". It would seem that a semi-auto, youth model of some manufacturer would come close to that arbitrary limit.

Like I said, it was just curiosity. It seems that everything that is really short is some kind of bullpup modification to an existing system.

[ar15barrels]

RAW's only need to be over 26" long.

[Patriot]

RAW's only need to be over 26" long.

You go room-clearing with a rimfire!

[ar15barrels]

You go room-clearing with a rimfire!

I have RAWs.
Registered Assault Weapons.

Centerfire?
Semi Auto?
Less than 30" OAL?
No problem.

[Patriot]

I have RAWs.
Registered Assault Weapons.

Centerfire?
Semi Auto?
Less than 30" OAL?
No problem.

Mea culpa. I need to get more sleep...

[bigthaiboy]

If you put a side folder stock on a WASR-22 it comes to 27" folded, and being rimfire, it's CA legal.

[jacques]

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http://home.earthlink.net/~lwcallahan1/lewsminiatures/id10.html

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