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  • L.A SOLDIER
    Banned
    • Mar 2008
    • 139

    RAIL SYSTEMS OR SIGHTS

    would you rather spend more on a EOTECH sight or Daniel Defence rail?
  • #2
    FlyingPen
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 2377

    Both... but it depends what you're going to do with the rifle.

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    • #3
      L.A SOLDIER
      Banned
      • Mar 2008
      • 139

      i know we would get both but which part would you be more concern in getting for your rifle?

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      • #4
        FlyingPen
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2007
        • 2377

        The EOTech sight.

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        • #5
          L.A SOLDIER
          Banned
          • Mar 2008
          • 139

          why would you perfer that if you dont mind me asking you?

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          • #6
            Linh
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 1246

            Sights before rail for me

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            • #7
              FlyingPen
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2007
              • 2377

              Because I also went with the SWEET LOOKING RAILS when I built my AR and I kind of wish I went with a good sight first.

              A good sight will benefit you from day 1 when you shoot the rifle. The rails come in handy later once you start adding accessories.

              The only time now I would get rails before anything else is if I'm getting the upper custom built, it would be logistically easier to get rails first in that case since most free floating rails aren't drop in. The DD OMEGA rails are drop in though.

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              • #8
                aplinker
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2007
                • 16762

                Why do you post a new thread instead of asking in your old one?

                Why don't you build the rifle without either and decide as you go along?

                It's hard for us to tell you what to get when you have no clue what you want or what you'll do with the rifle.

                Personally, I'd get both. If I had to choose? I'd get an optic. The FF rail is important and adds accuracy, but you can't hit what you can't sight.

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                • #9
                  L.A SOLDIER
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 139

                  no, i know what i want i want to have my rifle for range practice and home protection i would like to call it "field combat"

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                  • #10
                    aplinker
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 16762

                    Originally posted by L.A SOLDIER
                    no, i know what i want i want to have my rifle for range practice and home protection i would like to call it "field combat"
                    If home protection is really important, then I'd get an Aimpoint M3 or M4 instead. You can leave the power on for 6 months before they'd need to be changed.

                    Otherwise I think you're better off with the EOTech than the rail

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                    • #11
                      Maton
                      Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 350

                      eotech all the way. Or actually some sound basic marksmanship instruction would probably be even better. Rails are good if you want to put on all kinds of toys on your gun, but an eotech sight gets you good to go as soon as you put it on.
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                      • #12
                        Blue
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 8068

                        I'd spend the money on ammo instead of a sight or rail. Practice is going to get you more hits on a target than a rail or some sight that you dont have much experience with.
                        Lord, make my hand fast and accurate.
                        Let my aim be true and my hand faster
                        than those who would seek to destroy me.
                        Grant me victory over my foes and those who wish to do harm to me and mine.
                        Let not my last thought be 'If I only had my gun."
                        And Lord, if today is truly the day you call me home, let me die in an empty pile of brass.
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                        • #13
                          aplinker
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 16762

                          Originally posted by Blue
                          I'd spend the money on ammo instead of a sight or rail. Practice is going to get you more hits on a target than a rail or some sight that you dont have much experience with.
                          While I don't discount training and every person here loves to throw the, "Buy ammo and get training," line out there... An optic like the EOTech and Aimpoint provides a distinct advantage for even VERY untrained shooters. I would say it's worth is significant enough that it even overcomes "get training and ammo" first.

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                          • #14
                            ar15barrels
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                            • Jan 2006
                            • 56941

                            Originally posted by L.A SOLDIER
                            no, i know what i want i want to have my rifle for range practice and home protection i would like to call it "field combat"
                            You don't need rails or an eotech for that job.
                            You need a flashlight and iron sights.
                            Just get an integrated surefire light that snaps on to the existing delta ring and call it done.
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                            • #15
                              RECCE556
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 1221

                              If you're going RDS, I would recommend the Aimpoints over the EOTechs (I own some of both). EOTechs have some serious issues (past and current) with their battery contacts. So much so that SOPMOD PMO recently issued an official warning about the EOTech SU-231/PEQ. SOPMOD PMO has also halted any further fielding of this item. There have been some lengthy discussion about the subject on bARF and LF and this isn't some made up thing by EOTech haters. I have confirmed this issue with a EOTech insider...and before all the "hater" comments come out, I do own EOTechs...but not for long. I've had my own issues with them...so far only with pre-REV.F units but at this point, I think I'll sell the ones I have....

                              Also, Aimpoints have a huge battery life advantage and I have heard/seen more non-battery related EOTech failures than any sort of Aimpoint failures (ML2 and up).

                              As far as Optic vs. Rail - I would go optic first but adding a rail later can be hassle (and/or limiting) later depending on your configuration (such as with a perm. attached muzzle device). The best thing is get both but if you can't afford both, get the rail and while you're saving up for your optic, it would be a good opportunity to learn how to use your iron sights.
                              Last edited by RECCE556; 04-06-2008, 5:40 AM.

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