new here, with a question

[Sam .223]

hi everyone, just found the site and i have a legality question about my bushmaster ar 15, i wanted to know if there is anyway i can use a foregrip on it or not. i tried looking around but so far have not seen a clear yes or no answer. thanks.

[tophatjones]

If it is an OLL, you may use the vertical foregrip if you have a fixed magazine. The fixed magazine must be ten rounds or less, and BB technically fits into the definition of fixed mag. If your rifle is a registered AW, you can use the foregrip with detachable mags. Welcome to Calguns! Btw, you should read through this:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=56818

Category III AW as per Ca law:

RIFLES:



A semiautomatic centerfire rifle capable of accepting detachable magazines and any of:

▪ a pistol grip protruding conspicuously below the weapon’s action

▪ a thumbhole stock or folding or telescopic stock;

▪ a flash suppressor, grenade launcher or flare launcher;

▪ a forward pistol grip.



A semiautomatic centerfire rifle with overall length of less than 30 inches;

A semiautomatic centerfire rifle with a fixed magazine holding over 10 rounds.

[SemiAutoSam]

If the Rifle you own is on this list and You did not register it with the DOJ prior to 2000 you have possession of an illegal Assault Weapon.

Bushmaster XM15 (all)

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/infobuls/kaslist.pdf

[rkt88edmo]

If the Rifle you own is on this list and You did not register it with the DOJ prior to 2000 you have possession of an illegal Assault Weapon.

Bushmaster XM15 (all)

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/infobuls/kaslist.pdf

And if you did register it you can put on as many assault weapons features as you would like, just have to meet the overall length requirements.

[aplinker]

$10 says he has the sealed-up Carbon-15 CA Legal version.

Can you give us the make and model of your rifle, or find a picture online?

Is it registered? Is it an off-list AR?

The ONLY way you can't put one on there is if that Bushmaster happens to be the open magwell Carbon-15 and you're using no PG/going featureless (by skipping the PG, or using either a MMG or U-15).

If it's unregistered and you've got a PG & open magwell, or it's an XM-15, then you're pretty much screwed already.

[Sam .223]

sorry should've been more specific about the gun. it is the sealed verson, i bought it before i knew you could legally build one.

[JBird33]

sorry should've been more specific about the gun. it is the sealed verson, i bought it before i knew you could legally build one.

Since it is sealed magwell with a 10 round capacity, you can do pretty much whatever you want short of a M203, full auto, or shorter than 30 inches.

[SemiAutoSam]

The Carbon 15 sealed version ? or something else ?

IE is the receiver Aluminum ?

sorry should've been more specific about the gun. it is the sealed verson, i bought it before i knew you could legally build one.

[aplinker]

sorry should've been more specific about the gun. it is the sealed verson, i bought it before i knew you could legally build one.

Here's your answer below. You have a fixed 10rd mag, so you can have features. VFG is fine. Ever considered dremelling out the magwell and using a bullet button?

$10 says he has the sealed-up Carbon-15 CA Legal version.

The ONLY way you can't put one on there is if that Bushmaster happens to be the open magwell Carbon-15 and you're using no PG/going featureless (by skipping the PG, or using either a MMG or U-15).

[NeoWeird]

Since it is sealed magwell with a 10 round capacity, you can do pretty much whatever you want short of a M203, full auto, or shorter than 30 inches.

Since it doesn't have a removable magazine he can put on an M203 if he wanted. It would have to be the 37mm version to avoid DD violations, but just owning the 40mm M203 is a DD violation anyways, so that's kind of a moot argument.

[aplinker]

Since it doesn't have a removable magazine he can put on an M203 if he wanted. It would have to be the 37mm version to avoid DD violations, but just owning the 40mm M203 is a DD violation anyways, so that's kind of a moot argument.

That and a LMT M203 launcher is exorbitantly expensive (even without the tube).

[Sam .223]

my wife says thanks for the gernade launcher idea. so i guess i'll be getting my grip pod then, can you really dremel out the bottom of the magwell and use a bullet button on the carbon 15 and use a actual clip? if so then i could possibly convert the rifle to the 6.8 spl i thought about doing.. i'm glad you guys are here to help out the newbs. thanks.

[tophatjones]

my wife says thanks for the gernade launcher idea. so i guess i'll be getting my grip pod then, can you really dremel out the bottom of the magwell and use a bullet button on the carbon 15 and use a actual clip? if so then i could possibly convert the rifle to the 6.8 spl i thought about doing.. i'm glad you guys are here to help out the newbs. thanks.

Yes, it is legal to do so. The bullet button is considered a fixed magazine design. The carbon 15 is not a listed Ar15 series rifle (the XM15s from Bushy are, however).