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  • #46
    me109g4
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 615

    I saw in a previous post that ABS plastic can be used, now I dont know crap about these printers but if they can use ABS how about glass filled ABS?? I used to work for a company that made EKG sensors and the base of them we molded out of ABS with 20% glass fiber added, it was very tough stuff. Downside is it is abrasive as hell, we could wear out a hardened mold cavity in a few months and an unhardened one in a few days. Just a thought,,,

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    • #47
      bobgengeskahn
      Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 386

      Operational cost aside, does this style printer create a stronger product than say a DLP projection/SLA printer? I know the resin for SLA is $$$, compared to this (I don't even know what this printing method is called), but I'm curious to know how the finished products differ...

      Originally posted by Yugo
      im not to fond of the lower cause 80% is available. I just think it would be cool to make some mags and grip maybe a butt stock.
      ^^ This is along the lines of what I would be thinking too. If you could print mags, floor plates and followers, you just need to find a way to build reliable springs
      Once more into the fray,
      Into the last good fight I'll ever know,
      Live and die on this day,
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      • #48
        Exile Machine
        No longer in Business
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2009
        • 9551

        Originally posted by bobgengeskahn
        you just need to find a way to build reliable springs
        We are now stocking Wolff Gunsprings for our customers who like to roll their own 3D printed mags, or for those who just want to upgrade their old springs. Currently we only have the 20 round springs in stock. 30 rounders are on backorder.

        Got our MendelMax 2.0 kit in the lab over the last week or so, finally built it up and ran a test print today, which had to be aborted after about three layers because the hot end was dipping into the finished part and dragging molten ABS around. (Cue the Ricky Ricardo voice) "Lucy, you got some calibratin' to do."

        Here's a photo of the unit partially completed and undergoing all-axis test. The hot end is not installed under the extruder to prevent it from crashing into the glass during the test, should something go horribly wrong with the Z axis test:
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        Manufacturer of CA AWB Compliance Products from Oct 2009 to Nov 2018

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        • #49
          Yugo
          Calguns Addict
          • Feb 2011
          • 8374

          Originally posted by Exile Machine
          We are now stocking Wolff Gunsprings for our customers who like to roll their own 3D printed mags, or for those who just want to upgrade their old springs. Currently we only have the 20 round springs in stock. 30 rounders are on backorder.

          Got our MendelMax 2.0 kit in the lab over the last week or so, finally built it up and ran a test print today, which had to be aborted after about three layers because the hot end was dipping into the finished part and dragging molten ABS around. (Cue the Ricky Ricardo voice) "Lucy, you got some calibratin' to do."

          Here's a photo of the unit partially completed and undergoing all-axis test. The hot end is not installed under the extruder to prevent it from crashing into the glass during the test, should something go horribly wrong with the Z axis test:


          I cant tell from the picture, do you have a hot BED? To print ABS you need to have a hot bed at about 110 degrees the head should be at 220 degrees. You HAVE to calibrate the machine as much as possible, every point where the head travels needs to be the same height off the glass (distance between glass and hotend)

          You need


          and



          and this for the top of the bed can't hurt for the sticking.

          these are a must.

          the whole machine should be checked after 10-15 prints and make sure the numbers are still correct.
          Last edited by Yugo; 04-14-2013, 6:59 PM.
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          Originally posted by WAMO556
          Voting for Donald Trump is the protest vote against: Keynesian economics, Neocon wars, exporting jobs, open borders, Washington criminal cartel, too big to fail banks and too big to jail pols and banksters.

          Cutting off foreign aid to EVERY country and dismantling the police/surveillance state!

          Umm yeah!!!!!

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          • #50
            axhoaxho
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jun 2009
            • 10080

            What 3D printer would you folks suggest for an amature to have some fun learning/practicng about 3D printing at home, buget in low few thousand dollars? Nothing too serious like for commercial use, but hopefully the quality of the end-products are good/solid enough to be usable (e.g. custom mounts/brackets for in-car iPod/iPad/GPS/etc.) Thanks!

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            • #51
              Exile Machine
              No longer in Business
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2009
              • 9551

              MendelMax 2.0 comes standard with a hot bed. We had it at 110C and print head at 230C. The bed surface is borosilicate glass and we have heard that you need to lay down some kapton tape for ABS to stick. We calibrated the hotend to bed distance at six points and it was fine, but the z travel and extruder travel was not pre-calibrated and that is probably the issue here.

              Originally posted by Yugo
              I cant tell from the picture, do you have a hot BED? To print ABS you need to have a hot bed at about 110 degrees the head should be at 220 degrees. You HAVE to calibrate the machine as much as possible, every point where the head travels needs to be the same height off the glass (distance between glass and hotend)
              Manufacturer of CA AWB Compliance Products from Oct 2009 to Nov 2018

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              • #52
                Yugo
                Calguns Addict
                • Feb 2011
                • 8374

                Originally posted by Exile Machine
                MendelMax 2.0 comes standard with a hot bed. We had it at 110C and print head at 230C. The bed surface is borosilicate glass and we have heard that you need to lay down some kapton tape for ABS to stick. We calibrated the hotend to bed distance at six points and it was fine, but the z travel and extruder travel was not pre-calibrated and that is probably the issue here.
                let me know how it goes.
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                Originally posted by WAMO556
                Voting for Donald Trump is the protest vote against: Keynesian economics, Neocon wars, exporting jobs, open borders, Washington criminal cartel, too big to fail banks and too big to jail pols and banksters.

                Cutting off foreign aid to EVERY country and dismantling the police/surveillance state!

                Umm yeah!!!!!

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                • #53
                  Sicarius
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 2917

                  True, PLA(corn starch based) is easier to work with but PLA is weaker than ABS. I would sway somebody to make a receiver out of something that will biodegrate... A receiver should not be the first thing you print on your machine. There is a fair amount of fine tuning still. You can play with resolution, temps and speed to find what will make the strongest product. With ABS, there can be some contraction of the product which will create your product to lift off the hot plate(if you have a machine made for abs) This can ruin your product. A trick is to mix acetone and scrap abs in a jar and it will create a sludge. Smear a really thin layer on the hot plate. Another trick to try to get a stronger product is to suspend your product in a container with a small amount of acetone in it and heat it. The acetone will create a vapor which will help seal your product.
                  Kevin

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                  • #54
                    Yugo
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 8374

                    Originally posted by Sicarius
                    True, PLA(corn starch based) is easier to work with but PLA is weaker than ABS. I would sway somebody to make a receiver out of something that will biodegrate... A receiver should not be the first thing you print on your machine. There is a fair amount of fine tuning still. You can play with resolution, temps and speed to find what will make the strongest product. With ABS, there can be some contraction of the product which will create your product to lift off the hot plate(if you have a machine made for abs) This can ruin your product. A trick is to mix acetone and scrap abs in a jar and it will create a sludge. Smear a really thin layer on the hot plate. Another trick to try to get a stronger product is to suspend your product in a container with a small amount of acetone in it and heat it. The acetone will create a vapor which will help seal your product.
                    Kevin
                    Yes acetone is the key!..

                    I just have a couple more parts to print on the rerap.


                    and here is what I have so far,

                    Smoothie board for the computer
                    all the step motors
                    all the hardware
                    waiting for the hotbed to arrive
                    also waiting for the pyrex glass and metal bed.

                    This is still in developer stage and they are not produced yet it is the TK0.
                    Last edited by Yugo; 02-14-2018, 12:51 PM.
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                    Originally posted by WAMO556
                    Voting for Donald Trump is the protest vote against: Keynesian economics, Neocon wars, exporting jobs, open borders, Washington criminal cartel, too big to fail banks and too big to jail pols and banksters.

                    Cutting off foreign aid to EVERY country and dismantling the police/surveillance state!

                    Umm yeah!!!!!

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                    • #55
                      Yugo
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 8374

                      Last edited by Yugo; 12-23-2013, 4:14 AM.
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                      Originally posted by WAMO556
                      Voting for Donald Trump is the protest vote against: Keynesian economics, Neocon wars, exporting jobs, open borders, Washington criminal cartel, too big to fail banks and too big to jail pols and banksters.

                      Cutting off foreign aid to EVERY country and dismantling the police/surveillance state!

                      Umm yeah!!!!!

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                      • #56
                        Yugo
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 8374

                        Last edited by Yugo; 12-23-2013, 4:14 AM.
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                        Originally posted by WAMO556
                        Voting for Donald Trump is the protest vote against: Keynesian economics, Neocon wars, exporting jobs, open borders, Washington criminal cartel, too big to fail banks and too big to jail pols and banksters.

                        Cutting off foreign aid to EVERY country and dismantling the police/surveillance state!

                        Umm yeah!!!!!

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                        • #57
                          Yugo
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 8374

                          im almost about to print.

                          here it is 98% complete. I received the hotbed and glass. I have a metal machined carriage on order for now I mocked up a wood one.



                          Last edited by Yugo; 12-23-2013, 4:14 AM.
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                          Originally posted by WAMO556
                          Voting for Donald Trump is the protest vote against: Keynesian economics, Neocon wars, exporting jobs, open borders, Washington criminal cartel, too big to fail banks and too big to jail pols and banksters.

                          Cutting off foreign aid to EVERY country and dismantling the police/surveillance state!

                          Umm yeah!!!!!

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                          • #58
                            rabagley
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 7180

                            Originally posted by Exile Machine
                            Awesome. I just ordered a MendelMax 2.0 beta for us to muck around with in the shop here. Do you have a good cheap source for spools of plastic raw material?

                            -Mark

                            I built a mendelmax 1.5, mostly from the bill of materials. I'm curious about the new rails that Mike has chosen for the 2.0, but I'm probably going to build a deltabot for my first offspring.
                            "Ecuador offers the United States $23 million a year in economic aid, an amount similar to what we were receiving under the tariff benefits, with the purpose of providing human rights training that will contribute to avoid violations of people's privacy, that degrade humanity," --Fernando Alvarado

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                            • #59
                              rabagley
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 7180

                              Originally posted by Exile Machine
                              MendelMax 2.0 comes standard with a hot bed. We had it at 110C and print head at 230C. The bed surface is borosilicate glass and we have heard that you need to lay down some kapton tape for ABS to stick. We calibrated the hotend to bed distance at six points and it was fine, but the z travel and extruder travel was not pre-calibrated and that is probably the issue here.
                              I'm finding that hairspray works great for me. I found some AquaNet Extra Super Hold. Seems to be people are having the most luck with the most aggressive strengths hairspray.

                              Remove the glass, clean it, spray 2 full coverage coats in a box (a little heavier spray than I would do with paint), let it dry between coats (hairdryer if you're in a hurry), clip it up and print. Takes about 10 minutes, can be touched up several times before you need to clean and recoat it.

                              One downside: if you touch it with your fingers, you will need to spray over that spot before you'll get any adhesion again. Handle coated glass by the edges and corners outside of the print region.
                              "Ecuador offers the United States $23 million a year in economic aid, an amount similar to what we were receiving under the tariff benefits, with the purpose of providing human rights training that will contribute to avoid violations of people's privacy, that degrade humanity," --Fernando Alvarado

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                              • #60
                                Yugo
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 8374

                                needed a camera gimbal, so I made one



                                You can fallow the thread on this here
                                Last edited by Yugo; 04-30-2014, 6:27 PM.
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                                Originally posted by WAMO556
                                Voting for Donald Trump is the protest vote against: Keynesian economics, Neocon wars, exporting jobs, open borders, Washington criminal cartel, too big to fail banks and too big to jail pols and banksters.

                                Cutting off foreign aid to EVERY country and dismantling the police/surveillance state!

                                Umm yeah!!!!!

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