Your Opinion - Best 5.56 AW / Battle Rifle?

[sir9usr]

just to be different from everyone else - HK93!

[tuna quesadilla]

My opinion:
From an engineering, and manufacturing, performance and cost perspective... not a GOLD standard. It is popular and accepted because of its modular nature, and ease with which it is repaired and refit to new components.

The GOLD standard would have to be the AK pedigree. Everything is compared to the AK. One can improve on the AK accuracy, but not reliability... this is the mantra repeated by manufacturers. Ive seen premium AR mfg state that their guns offer "bolt action accuracy and AK reliability"

And has a successful... hell, has an UNSUCCESSFUL aw been built for less money than the AK. Nope and nope.

buuut... the Sig 556 comes closer than any other.

So... Sig.

...By people who are trying to sell you something, and people who are so shallow that they always buy into whatever people try to sell them.

Sorry guy, but what I said is correct.

[stix213]

Isn't the closest AR in 556 to a battlerifle something like an m16a4 clone? Battle rifle to me means Nato fixed stock and rifle length barrel.

[looker]

Best in 5.56? HK93.

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[MrPlink]

In with Crt on this one. AK is the gold standard the WORLD round. The AR15 is on these shores, but barring an American centric view it is far from the case.

[Bouy]

I have two AR-15's in 16" and 20" and they are fun to shoot. A gas tube AR-15 is still very reliable because an AR will shoot dirty or dry but not both. Get some good synthetic lubricant like Jardine's Extreme which I use because it'll withstand the temperatures. The problem with most lubricants, especially CLP which tries to do everything but suck at them, is that they evaporate or drip away during shooting, leading to failures. Magazines are also another big cause of jams.

Anyways, Pistons are definitely more reliable but they are also a lot more expensive (to buy and repair). I'm actually hoping to get a LWRCI M6A2 upper which I've heard from Law Enforcement armorers to be more reliable than HK416's.

Other than AR style, I got a FN FS2000 which is a bullpup design and I have a FN SCAR 16S and 17S waiting for me when I get back from my deployment. All these are also short stroke piston driven though the SCAR is built from the ground up rather than tacked on to an AR platform. Still the SCAR's have the same manual of arms as the AR/M-16 with the only difference being the charging handle is on top near the front and it also reciprocates as you fire.

[GM4spd]

In with Crt on this one. AK is the gold standard the WORLD round.

I agree, I prefer my SIG556NM (NM=no maintenance) setup especially with it's AK type
full length piston,and it uses M16/AR mags which are EVERYWHERE! It folds and glows in the dark(with no batteries)!
Comes WITH an AMBI/Safety which is very useful on this type weapon. Pete

[Droppin Deuces]

I'm surprised how much "AW" is getting tossed around lately. We can't have AW's here.

[REDdawn6]

Mini 30

[NHP1127]

AUG can be easily optioned to meet all five points, with #4 not needed.



I have not really seen the AR carried by a winning army either. I don't count Viet Nam and the Middle East as wins. You are a little vague on what type of competition but since the OP was not interested in competition I see that as moot.



What do you consider long distance for an AW? Anything over 300 yards is a completely different requirement. The 1.5x scope/carry handle is plenty effective. My Troy sights work fine up to 200 yards on torso sized targets.

FYI- All Marines qualify out to 500M with the Colt or FN M4. That can be done with both their iron sights and or ACOGs. So yes, past 300M is a standard requirement.

[redcliff]

AR-15's are "police" or "military-style" semi-auto rifles. They are not Battle Rifles as defined by small arms experts due to their firing an intermediate power cartridge.

[starsnuffer]

No such thing as a battle rifle that fires 5.56.

[liv4spd]

Scar 16.

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[tonelar]

Steyr AUG. It's like a Ferrari compared to Mustang AR's. AR's are great for shooting any caliber you want but if I was dealing with SHTF in the streets I would use an AUG.

Like mine:

What sights are those? Mine has an Eo... and 14.5" barrel.

[Oceanbob]

AR-15's are "police" or "military-style" semi-auto rifles. They are not Battle Rifles as defined by small arms experts due to their firing an intermediate power cartridge.

THIS^^^^^

My choice would be what I own. My HK-91. I also have the folding stock and other gear for her. Incredibably accurate and dead-nuts reliable. A little hard on Brass..heheh...but hey, it runs with really dirty ammo without issues.



As for a .223/5.56 platform rifle to have in hand while getting thru East Los Angeles after a giant earthquake, riots and random firestorms with roaming hords of zombies .....my choice would be my....

MINI 14

Yep. A very handy carbine. I prefer the stock iron sights. Quick to shoulder and fire, the Mini-14 is perfect for me.