Can someone else with a Noveske N4 please check something for me?

[Adonlude]

So I picked up my N4 this weekend but not without a little frustration at the gun shop. The guy who owns the store was not comfortable with only the upper and lower being seperated and decided to remove the pistol grip, collapsable stock, and for some reason the entire trigger group.

Upon getting to the store he brings me all the parts but forgets the pistol grip. I inform him and he brings me a cheapo stock grip. I tell him it was a Tango Down grip and he finds it for me, ok, honest mistake. I inspect the gun and find a big scratch in the finish across the ring that retains the stock, obviously from him removing it. Not a huge problem for me so I don't mention it.

This is my first AR and the younger guy at the shop is nice enough to show me how to put it all back together. Turns out the owner also lost two of the springs, luckly they had spares, and luckily the younger guy offered to assemble it for me.

I got the gun home now and I just noticed a difference between the finish on the two take down pins. My rear take down pin is nicely polished and finished to perfectly match the rest of the gun's finish. The front take down pin is just an ugly unpolished unfinished steel color. Did the gun shop loose my front take down pin too?

Someone else with an N4 can you please tell me if both your take down pins nicely match the gun's finish. Also, is there anything special about the Noveske trigger group? I wouldn't be surprised at this point if I was given a different trigger group.

Thanks.

[viras]

I inspect the gun and find a big scratch in the finish across the ring that retains the stock, obviously from him removing it.

I'd be pissed to high hell over this.

[Adonlude]

I'd be pissed to high hell over this.

Ya, well its a small part and it doesn't bother me enough to make a big deal of it. Now if it had been any part of the upper or lower I would have raised hell

[Hopi]

Ya, well its a small part and it doesn't bother me enough to make a big deal of it. Now if it had been any part of the upper or lower I would have raised hell

And the shop took care of the first scratch for you. Now all of the other wear and tear will be that much easier to handle.....

[8200rpm]

The original post is a bit disturbing, and it has nothing to do with the scratch or finish of the takedown pin.

[bwiese]

8200rpm, I agree with you - it's disturbing for all the wrong reasons.


Yes, the dealer was a doofus....

No, he didn't need to disassemble it to the detail level....

Appears the receivers/major surfaces are all OK. Get a Birchwood Casey touchup pen. As you wrench on the rifle over time to change parts, you'll probably add more scracthes in those locations.

And if you use it other than as a safe queen, it'll get some small marks too - especially on the brass deflector.


It's a friggin' combat rifle, get over it.

[viras]

8200rpm, I agree with you - it's disturbing for all the wrong reasons.


Yes, the dealer was a doofus....

No, he didn't need to disassemble it to the detail level....

Appears the receivers/major surfaces are all OK. Get a Birchwood Casey touchup pen. As you wrench on the rifle over time to change parts, you'll probably add more scracthes in those locations.

And if you use it other than as a safe queen, it'll get some small marks too - especially on the brass deflector.


It's a friggin' combat rifle, get over it.

Yeah, but it's the Porsche of Combat Rifles.

And I wouldn't wanna get a brand new Porsche all dinged up by the dealer before I had a chance to put a few dings in her myself. Ya know?

I just hate it when people disrespect other peoples' expensive toys...

[Adonlude]

It's a friggin' combat rifle, get over it.

People spend $2k on Noveske for the excellent quality and beautiful fit and finish. How silly of me to care what condition mine comes in.

Are you going into combat with your rifles? I never plan on going into combat with this rifle so I dont see why I should be expected to treat it like I am.

[bwiese]

People spend $2k on Noveske for the excellent quality and beautiful fit and finish.

Originally, people spent $2K+ on Noveske for the excellent barrels and operational reliability.

Now the tax refund customers are coming in.

If someone offered to scratch my upper receiver but would install an N4 bbl on it, I'd call it a good deal!

[8200rpm]

I can't be of any assistance regarding the finish of a N4 front pivot pin; I purchased my N4 as an upper for my registered Bushmaster. If it makes you feel any better, the front pivot pin on my Bushmaster is grayer and rougher than the rear take down pin. AFAIK, there is nothing special about the N4 trigger group... probably a CMT LPK.

You and the dealer should have worked out what configuration he would be comfortable with BEFORE you ordered it. I guess he was uncomfortable taking possession of a complete lower with a collapsible stock, pistol grip, open mag well, and the numbers 5.56mm engraved on the side.

The dealer I use for OLL explicitly explains in what configuration he wants to receive them in... stripped, BB/P50 fixed-mag installed, or MMG/fixed stock.

Once you put a couple hundred rounds through your fixed-mag Noveske, you'll forget all about the little scratch and the finish of the pivot pin.

[ar15barrels]

It's a friggin' combat rifle, get over it.

I dropped my unloaded Benelli M190 off the table last weekend while transistioning to my handgun because I slammed the shotgun down so hard that it bounced...

I was not too concerned with this except that I had to clear out the leaves from the rear sight before the next time I shot it.

Scratches happen.
The key is to have guns of significant quality where rough use will not be a concern.
I have no concern with my competetion guns: a Glock, a Benelli & a registered AW Bushmaster.
All have been worked over extensively and used enough that they have honest wear.

[Casual_Shooter]

I'll check my pins when I get home and let you know. I don't remember them being different.

[Adonlude]

I'll check my pins when I get home and let you know. I don't remember them being different.

Thanks much!

[xrMike]

And if you use it other than as a safe queen, it'll get some small marks too - especially on the brass deflector.

Even those marks can be avoided by taking a piece of sticky-backed black velcro (the soft side with the loops, not the hooks) and cutting out a piece the same size as the front face of the deflector, and sticking it on there.

No more brass marks. Plus it gets rid of most of the dents in your case mouths, if you're into reloading.

Yeah, I'm weird that way.

[Adonlude]

Even those marks can be avoided by taking a piece of sticky-backed black velcro (the soft side with the loops, not the hooks) and cutting out a piece the same size as the front face of the deflector, and sticking it on there.

No more brass marks. Plus it gets rid of most of the dents in your case mouths, if you're into reloading.

Yeah, I'm weird that way.

Ahhh, I was wondering what that big piece of metal sticking out was for, its a brass deflector. I am such an AR15 noob. Excellent tip which I will definitely use.