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  • SFSig
    Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 117

    Magpul PMAG 10 round limiter

    I just saw on the packaging of the Magpul PMAG 10 round limiter a pretty bold statement about how these limiters are not to be used to make hi-cap mags legal in banned states etc.

    It reads:

    "... Use of this product does not constitue a permanent capacity reduction, and will NOT make a banned magazine legal in any jurisdiction..."

    What's the consensus regarding this and turning 20 round rebuild kits into 10 rounders? Just CYA on Magpul's part?

    I'm aware that if these were installed they may or may not be considered permanent depending on your point of view. On the one hand you can covert them back to hi-cap. On the other hand, if you were to try and convert them back to hi cap then you've dissassembled the mag into a rebuild kit (obviously taking the next step and assembling the mag without the limiter making a hi cap mag is a no-no). I'm also aware that there's no precedent or case law to definitively answer this question.

    My question really revolves around the warning on the back... How worried would you be that if you found yourself in court and had to reconcile using the limiter in CA despite the warning?

    What say you guys?






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    TheExiled
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 2933

    I think they are just taking themselves out of the equation in the event of any kind of legal trouble. Like when parts manufacturers write "to be installed by professionals" so that when bubba screws it and his gun up, the manufacturer is clean
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    • #3
      Tjfearl
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 1108

      Originally posted by SFSig
      I just saw on the packaging of the Magpul PMAG 10 round limiter a pretty bold statement about how these limiters are not to be used to make hi-cap mags legal in banned states etc.

      It reads:

      "... Use of this product does not constitue a permanent capacity reduction, and will NOT make a banned magazine legal in any jurisdiction..."

      What's the consensus regarding this and turning 20 round rebuild kits into 10 rounders? Just CYA on Magpul's part?

      I'm aware that if these were installed they may or may not be considered permanent depending on your point of view. On the one hand you can covert them back to hi-cap. On the other hand, if you were to try and convert them back to hi cap then you've dissassembled the mag into a rebuild kit (obviously taking the next step and assembling the mag without the limiter making a hi cap mag is a no-no). I'm also aware that there's no precedent or case law to definitively answer this question.

      My question really revolves around the warning on the back... How worried would you be that if you found yourself in court and had to reconcile using the limiter in CA despite the warning?

      What say you guys?






      And yes I searched...
      It is definitely a CYA statement by them. There is no definition of what permanent is in CA penal code. I use Magpul 20 Pmags with the 10 round limiters. I don't epoxy or rivet because I feel that is permanently modified. Until there is a concrete definition of what "permanent" is, I will keep on keeping on.
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      • #4
        ConfucianScholar
        Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 368

        CYFA statement, nothing more.
        Things are a lot more like they used to be than they are now...

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