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  • 4D5auto
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 706

    OLL Configuration

    Want to build an M4, also leaning toward Stag, Spikes, CMMG, Mega. But, I want matching upper and lower. Now, which is the best way to go, bullet button, prince 50. I've seen talk here about this stuff, but after seeing so dang much, I can't locate again where I found it all! As for uppers and lowers, I think I'm going to have to call around to see if these places offer the sets. Also, are flash hiders just plain outlawed in CA, regardless of the type of build anyone does?

    Thanks all.
    NRA Life Member
  • #2
    Ech0Sierra
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 944

    A. Bullet Button is more convenient in CA, P50 is easier to reverse for Area 52/ NV Competition etc.
    B. Flash Hiders are allowed with P50s and BBs.
    C. Stag if you're on a budget, CMMG if you want a good one, Noveske if you have money to burn.

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    • #3
      thazard
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 77

      (1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to
      accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
      (A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action
      of the weapon.
      (B) A thumbhole stock.
      (C) A folding or telescoping stock.
      (D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
      (E) A flash suppressor.
      (F) A forward pistol grip.

      Since you are Getting either a prince 50 or BB, then you can have a flash suppressor. I just made my 1st build with the BB and I love it.
      BYOAOWBTR. Bring Your Own Ammo Or We'll Be Throwing Rocks.

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      • #4
        fairfaxjim
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2006
        • 2146

        Originally posted by thazard
        (1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to
        accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
        (A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action
        of the weapon.
        (B) A thumbhole stock.
        (C) A folding or telescoping stock.
        (D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
        (E) A flash suppressor.
        (F) A forward pistol grip.

        Since you are Getting either a prince 50 or BB, then you can have a flash suppressor. I just made my 1st build with the BB and I love it.
        P50 and BB = non detachable magazine, A through F don't apply, all ok to have. Detachable mag., i.e. Monster Man grip, U-15 stock then you cannot have any of A - F. You can switch out the flash hider with a compensator or muzzle brake. Branson and others make them that are very similar in appearance to the A2 flash hider.
        "As soon as we burn 'em," Chinn said, "more come in."
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        • #5
          s2000news
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 995

          All OLL are the same if they are Mil Spec. Just pick the logo you like and buy it.

          Plus, you won't build just one.
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          "An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." - J. Cooper

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          • #6
            4D5auto
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 706

            On the AW ban list by Roberti-Roos, the list Olympic Arms model PCR (all) is listed, What does the PCR stand for?

            Also, what is the opinion of DPMS uppers and barrels??
            NRA Life Member

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            • #7
              4D5auto
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 706

              OK, no one knows what PCR is.

              I will ask this, If I go with a MMG, I can not use a flash hider, will the muzzle break need to be permanently attached?
              NRA Life Member

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              • #8
                Kishfisser
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                • Aug 2007
                • 274

                I may be wrong but, from the reading I have done on this web site, no the muzzle break does not need to be permanently attached as there is no law about threaded barrels being illegal, unles the barrel is less than 16 inches.

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                • #9
                  4D5auto
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 706

                  Thanks.
                  I have found out what PCR means, Politically Correct Rifle! Straight from Olympic Arms!
                  NRA Life Member

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                  • #10
                    aplinker
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 16762

                    Originally posted by 4D5auto
                    OK, no one knows what PCR is.

                    I will ask this, If I go with a MMG, I can not use a flash hider, will the muzzle break need to be permanently attached?
                    Please read SB23 again. It's the only thing that drives legality with an OLL.

                    The only reason to pin/weld a muzzle device is to meet the Federal (and state) 16" barrel requirement. It's an SBR issue.

                    The reason the MMG is legal is it's a way to replace a pistol grip. The rest of the features from SB23 also cannot be present.

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